[markus]

That’s a good Idea! I’m confident that i can manage to write a little reaper script for  that, i’ve already done some scripting in reaper.

Once the aftertouch-off is “fired”, will sd3 record it properly? (relates to my former question:

markus wrote:

Does it mean, if sd3 doesn’t receive the aftertouch-off, it ignores the aftertouch-event completely?

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[markus]

Hello Henrik, thanks for your in depth research and information!

What does the following mean:

Henrik wrote:

SD3 handles this differently, it removes the choke Aftertouch on recording.

? Does it mean, if sd3 doesn’t receive the aftertouch-off, it ignores the aftertouch-event completely?

If so, do you have an idea, how i could “immitate” the sending of aftertouch-off automatically by for example some midi-filter-software that’s working and listeneing between the midi-in and the daw/sd3? What, if that makes sense at all, would be an adequate interval between on/off?

Or, since you stated

Henrik wrote:

There are some e-drums that has this problem,

is the problem already addressed by some other workaround or fix or so?

 

Maybe that’s a little OT by now, but every answer is appreciated 😉

 

Thanks a lot, Markus

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[markus]

interesting: I recorded the known sequence in reaper. During recording (on a midi track with sd3 as vst-plugin) the choke worked, resulting in the known problem that the cymbal stays dampened. Replaying the recorded midi from the daw it shows the exact same result. Eventually I recorded the reaper Playback in sd3 and there the choke was gone again, all cymbals Sounded open! I attached the sd3 Project file AND “working” reaper midi here. Thanks, Markus

[markus]

I hope i come to try that this evening. Thanks so far,

 

Markus

[markus]

Hello Henrik,

 

no, the chokes don’t get replayed. It’s like i wrote earlier:

markus wrote:

The funny thing was, when i played the file back, the choke on the 4th hit wasn’t replayed: the cymbal sounded open! And once having replayed the recorded part, hitting the formerly muted cymbal again, the muting was gone (like having “released the brake”)! Thus i didn’t have to restart SD3 to continue playing but then when i choke the cymbal again, the muting is “locked” again. Do you have an idea what could be happening there?

An maybe another Problem emerges with the described behaviour: how do I record cymbal-Chokes … :-}

Can there be happening some kind of (event-)filtering, that could be switched on/off by some setting in SD3?

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[markus]

No, there’s no other midi playing (if i got you right) – only the drum-module, playing back its own sounds. I could prevent that, there’s a a setting to do so, thus only sd3 would get triggered.

 

Also the cymbal-(mis-)usage isn’t intentionally. I just started the sd3 standalone app and ran with the default setup. I noticed, there are some (eh … more precisely: a lot 😉 “presets” for different e-drums/drum-modules in the midi-in/e-drums settings tab. I didn’t find my “Fame DD One” module listed there but the “medeli dd 518”, which is said to be very close if not similar. Should I give that setting a try and upload another project with also the cymbal mapping fixed?

 

thanks, Markus

[markus]

Hello Henrik, so here’s the sd3 Project file. 3 Hits open, 4th choked, 3 Hits with the Problem.  i did that sequence with each of my 2 Crash cymbals in succession.

Thanks for caring,

Markus

[markus]

Hello Henrik, thanks for your quick reply!

I can upload the sd3-Project this evening. Is there by any chance an sd3-setting that keeps/enables the choke-signal (midi-cc?) to be recorded? A checkbox in a menu saying “record all midi input” for example? Like Peter above i saw the aftertouch-commands in the midi monitor – did my midi-file contain these?

 

many thanks so far, Markus

[markus]

Hello Henrik,

so here’s the recorded midi-file. First I did 3 hits without choke, then a choked one followed by another 3 hits without choke. The latter showed the problem, the sound gets muted immediately (sounds like holding a real cymbal firmly while hitting it). The funny thing was, when i played the file back, the choke on the 4th hit wasn’t replayed: the cymbal sounded open! And once having replayed the recorded part, hitting the formerly muted cymbal again, the muting was gone (like having “released the brake”)! Thus i didn’t have to restart SD3 to continue playing but then when i choke the cymbal again, the muting is “locked” again. Do you have an idea what could be happening there?

An maybe another Problem emerges with the described behaviour: how do I record cymbal-Chokes … :-}

Many thanks in advance,

Markus

[markus]

Hello there,

 

this is Markus from Germany. I’m facing the same Problem with a Fame DD-One e-drum set (similar to medeli DD518 DX). I’d like to know if you already found a solution to the issue. If not, maybe i can do some more research, too (post a midi-file as mentioned above or else …).

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Markus

[markus]

Hello John,

thanks for your reply!
Playing the drums with the fingers behaves the same like klicking the drums with the mouse: the sound is played when the button (finger) is released. Therefore i come to think that maybe it’s not even an issue of the plugin alone but in combination with Windows and its touch-behaviour, i don’t know. Maybe you have the expertise and experience regarding such issues? If so, i’d very much appreciate any suggestions – but thanks anyway of course 🙂

Do you know if EZdrummer2 and/or SuperiorDrummer behave different with touch devices (“better” so to say ;-)? I plan to crossgrade someday anyway and that’d probably accelerate that step 😉

Thanks and Best Regards,

Markus

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