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[Mark King]

I must admit that I have to turn up the ride cymbals in just about every kit. That’s been the case since sd3 was released. It never bothered me but as a drummer they are definitely not as loud as I hear from my real drums without headphones. Also when I have my drums miked up with overheads I still hear the ride without the crashes being too loud. By the way I use dry kits when playing and only process or change the preset after recording the midi. I find it feels more like playing my real drum kit that way.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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Thanked by: Kim Mossige

[Mark King]

So you have all three modules sending different notes? If not then you need to. I would record every midi output from each module and write down the note numbers and make sure there are no duplicates. Once you have all unique notes numbers then manually apply them in the edrum settings. Learn is ok but hard with anything either more than one zone.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

I must admit I totally agree with Jord.  For me I’d prefer the effort to go into making playing sd3 even better using an ekit rather than naming it a sample player.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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[Mark King]

I suppose it’s not really the core function of sd3. It’s just an add on as the main aim with sd3 is the core library and packs.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

I use the Cubase drum editor. I find it easier to keep all my midi in the DAW. That way it’s easy to use with a different drum vsti just by changing the out note number if it doesn’t work. Also better for render in place if rendering in stereo or multiple outs. I’m used to the Cubase drum editor and find the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. I use only one drum map as it covers all the kits I use. It doesn’t cover percussion but i just drop the drum map to ‘used instruments’ and then it’s easy enough to see what’s going on. I don’t tend to do much percussion in sd3 though. With the midi in Cubase it doesn’t become obsolete in a few years if I no longer have sd3. I have already found that when I moved from superiordrummer to sd2 and then sd3.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

• This post was modified 8 months, 1 week ago by Mark King.

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[Mark King]

If you want two separate kicks then you need two note numbers. I’m not sure I’m understanding your problem from the description.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

It’s not cc but note number. Cc is continuous controller. Stack the user sample and you can use the same note number.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

You can copy them across as I’ve done it. On the old computer go to a preset you created and view in folder then copy them all.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

I just about always load the dry kits. That is how you get a clean drum sound without processing.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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[Mark King]

Ah so not a fade out of drums. Then you need to change the velocity of hits. There are methods in different DAWs that could do this.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

You should be able to write automation for controller 7 in your DAW to control the overall volume of sd3. I don’t know Acid but it should be a pretty basic for any DAW. Do you have a fader for sd3? If so can you record automation for that fader?

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

I don’t think they would reference actual kits either as used by the bands. It’s the space and drums they record and not the bands and their kits. Getting a certain sound is then down to the engineer/producer which is you! Seems an odd question with a very big Oasis angle.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

I can’t answer the 1st question but the sensitivity and threshold should definitely be set on the module. If you can’t give sd3 the right midi to start with then you are on a losing battle.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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[Mark King]

So as above but if you want a large kit then you will have to change the midi notes one of them sends. SD3 has presets but only one will work. You can create your own midi preset based on the td17 and add note numbers for all the extra drums being triggered by the Alesis. You can’t have duplicate nite numbers even if they originate from different devices. I did that in the past with my ddrum4 and Alesis io. There are no custom patches for two modules playing one large kit.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

• This post was modified 9 months ago by Mark King.

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Thanked by: Luke Thurgood

[Mark King]

So if you record a hard drum hit is it at velocity 127? The comments I made earlier about setting up sensitivity still apply. Also you can turn up sd3. It has an overall volume control as do all the individual drums as well as the mixer section. I certainly do not use sensitivity with my td50x to force the higher velocities at softer hits. I set it so that a normal playing hit I expect to trigger a full volume. I don’t change the velocity curves either as I want a full dynamic range. So as I mentioned earlier as well, the modules are more compressed and forgiving. SD3 acts more like real drums.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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