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[Mark King]

If you add that then you also add latency. I can use plugins within my DAW if needed. It’s not something I would want toontrack to spend time implementing.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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[Mark King]

It will never be in sd3 as it’s not a fix or small change. Sd4 or whatever it will be called is more likely.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

I’m guessing it’s only a couple of people at most as I’ve never experienced this and I would have expected many post about it if others had. Are you using at least full hd resolution?

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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[Mark King]

Thankfully I have a bodhran and can play it. I’ve used it a few times in songs. I use sd3 for drums as real drums in my house are just not practical. Percussion, although loud is nowhere near as loud as drums so I tend to play the actual instruments. Obviously no use if you don’t have the instrument and can’t play it if you did.

Definitely a need for multisample percussion. Tabla would also be useful. I have a set but they need re-skinning. I did have tabla on a Roland u220 expansion card 30 years ago which were actually quite good.

Saying all that I love SD3 for the drums which are by far the best.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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[Mark King]

If changing a preset then the mapping should stay the same. If you change projects then the mapping should is part of it. When loading a preset you can choose what you actually want to load. I can’t get on my computer but I think you right click on the preset and you get a list you can choose from.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

Have you saved the midi map in edrum settings? Don’t change the midi mapping on the front screen of SD3

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

Just record the midi. No need to send audio and convert.

By the way if the kick is playing a snare then just transpose it down a couple of semitones. Or get more involved and check the midi to see what note numbers has been assigned and check in sd3 what note number the snare is on and transpose the difference.

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[Mark King]

Yes you can separate all instruments in SD3 and turn of bleeds. I’m not able to get to my computer at the moment and can’t explain without going through it. Search Superior Drummer 3 mic routing on YouTube.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

Have you gone onto the edrum page and checked out the presets available?

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

I run the ultimate power plan and I’ve stopped everything from falling asleep (usb and drives) I use my motherboards conservative overclock feature which takes my i9 9900k to about 5Ghz I’ve tried a few other things like C state but that didn’t make a difference. I find no difference between win 10 and win 11 as far as performance is concerned. I do find quite a few plugins these days are really power hungry. SD3 isn’t too bad though. I can’t think if anything else I’ve done. I can on some Cubase projects (C14 pro) push my i9 hard though.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

It’s probably never been mentioned as I haven’t seen anyone find a problem with the GUI. If that is a problem for you then you really should have done your homework before buying and not just assume. There are plenty of music software without this type of feature. A simple look at SD3 YouTube videos would have revealed they all have the same GUI and a question on a forum would also have revealed that this feature did not exist. I know if something really matters to me I make sure I do my research.

A feature request is the way to go, as you have done. Not a rant though.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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[Mark King]

So the sound can not actually be any different as mentioned in my first post. If you are using the same preset, then whether it’s played by the midi from the td17 or recorded midi from the td17 it will be exactly the same. Are you using something different to listen to the recorded midi as opposed to when you are actually playing the kit?  Have you set up the triggering correctly on the td17? I ask as many don’t and it makes a big difference. The Roland modules are very forgiving with bad trigger settings. SD3 has a better dynamic range and will play whatever velocity is sent to it. Make sure you set your triggers for hard hits go hit a full velocity midi value of 127.

Also turn effects off when playing and drop ambience to get a more natural sound. I use my own presets for playing but then may swap for a different one for mixing.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

• This post was modified 5 months, 2 weeks ago by Mark King.

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[Mark King]

I can’t work out what the issue actually is from your post. What do you mean it doesn’t sound right? Is it latency or something else?  If it sounds ok with midi playing it then when you play from the td-17 it is still just midi and playing exactly the same as when you record. What headphones are you using? Do they isolate well enough so you are not hearing the pad noise? If not, pad noise definitely changes your perception of the sound. To be clear what is generated by sd3 is no different with it being played by recorded midi or midi coming in.

So as far as latency is concerned (this can make playing feel not quite right if too high) have you gone into the control panel in windows and adjusted the td-17 driver to the lowest buffers it will go to? The Roland built in audio interface is ok but doesn’t get low latency like some dedicated audio interfaces (note I said some as not all audio interfaces have low latency). If you think the problem is latency then how much do you want to spend on an audio interface?

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

So are you saying you physically play in time but the midi is out if time for one of the three instances? What if you create a 4th instance and play a different drum? Is the midi in sd3 or on a track in the DAW?

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Mark King]

Do you use the same keyboard to record the midi for bass, snare and hi hats? If you do then that can’t be it. Do you hear the delay when you monitor while recording the midi? If not then again it’s something else. I don’t use pro tools but are you sure you haven’t got anything different on the kick track?

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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