[Mani10]

I’d love to come and try your system. Haha! I’m pretty picky maybe? Or my configuration is messed up? I’ve tried 1k plus audio interfaces without getting the desired effect? The TD50 module as an interface gives me 1.8ms I/O. I use reaper and get between 2.2-1.4ms I/O… I’ve tried a lot of different configurations and have never been happy with SD3 as a standalone configuration. I’m always comparing to my acoustic drumset obviously… They have great samples but for me the playability is just not there by itself. I’m getting a massive upgrade to an already powerful system tomorrow so we’ll see if that makes any difference? Maybe it’s apple vs PC? Wish I knew the answer! I’d love to have the responsiveness of the TD50X with SD3! Together I’ve been pretty happy.

[Mani10]

Hey all,

I’m sure the current version of SD3 will be just as compatible with the TD50x and digital hihats as it is with the TD50 and digital ride / snare. With the ride I don’t get the same quality of zone transition with SD3 compared to the TD50- it’s a bell / bow/ edge sound. I’d assume the digital hats will be the same. Just like SD3 won’t pick up tom position changes like the TD50x- just one center articulation. One thing that bugs me is they can’t program the kick to play both an open and buried articulation dependent on velocity. To this day I could never play SD3 alone- have a super powerful computer and 1.4ms latency I/O and I can still detect lag and the playability is just missing. Fortunately I figured out mixing roland kits with SD3 kits and that gives me a pretty good emulation of my acoustic drums- feeling and sound. Wish SD3 or roland would figure out how to make amazing sounds and feeling all in one package. The new TD50x is definitely better sounding and feeling than the TD50- my only gripe currently is the obvious machine gunning on the snare with double stroke roles… I’m hoping they’ll rectify this with future updates?

Reply To: Does SD3 recognize the new Roland TD-50X module? version: 3.2.4
Operating system: Windows 10

[Mani10]

I think this was mentioned before… I seem to remember trying this without much luck? But…. Today I tried using SD3 via Reaper (DAW). After adding a new track, then selecting SD3 under the add VST (FX) function, selecting midi to TD50 all channels and finally arming the record button—- all of my problems have been solved. I’m guessing Reaper uses a different ASIO driver and or it prioritizes SD3? I have no choppy stream of my samples, no discernible latency and all seems to be working. This is with 64 samples and 44.1 khz, the default sound card and no audio interface- minus my TD50 which is an audio interface I guess. Hope this helps someone.  I have a decent PC- 32gb ram, CPU 4.8-5.0 ghz- 8 cores.

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[Mani10]

Hey antanast,

These are the same exact figures I’m getting using a rather powerful PC with standard ASIO4ALL drivers connected directly to TD50 via USB 3.0. For me the latency is far too noticeable. I’ve tried $800 ish audio interfaces without better results using their drivers? I’m tempted to try a sound card directly to my PCI slot? I’ve managed to make the SD3 samples / latency playable by mixing them with onboard samples. After years of troubleshooting it seems that you’ll never be able to get the lack of latency of a roland module without having the samples loaded directly to the module? Which as far as I know is not possible. Let me know if you figure anything out.

[Mani10]

Hey, Are there plans or is it possible for a preset maybe? Roland modules give a hit for burying the beater and open for all other hits without SD3. So far SD3 doesn’t seem to recognize any hit articulations just a louder open articulation. Am I correct? To rectify this I have been forced to add a stack and put a gate something like 100-127 velocity to get the hit articulation to play. This gets tedious when having to do this with every new kit.

Since I’m on the topic of vdrums and SD3. I also don’t seem to be able to get all of the articulations on the ride to play when using the roland digital ride? Just seems to play edge, bow, bell and that’s it. The roland ride has many more zones and the latest libraries seem to have more articulations? Is there a different preset that works better with a roland TD50 digital setup?

 

Thanks in advance for any input!

 

Mani

[Mani10]

Hello,

Thanks for bringing this up. I too am looking to have my positional sensing operational on the Digital Roland ride.

Thanks in advance for any info!

Reply To: Midi mapping for Roland Digital Ride (CY-18DR) version: 3.1.6
Operating system: Windows 10

[Mani10]

Hi all!

If anyone can give me a clear idea of what hardware is necessary to achieve perfect / near perfect latency and response while using SD3 with a roland TD50 it would be GREATLY appreciated. Money is not a concern as long as I’m not paying for features I don’t need to achieve this goal. I currently am running windows 10 on 8 cores at 5.o ghz. I have no audio card installed, just what’s on the motherboard with ASIO4ALL drivers. My TD50 is connected via USB midi to my CPU.

 

Thanks!!!

Reply To: Best way to achieve lowest latency with vdrums? version: 3.1.4
Operating system: Windows 10

[Mani10]

Thanks for your reply! It sounds like your preference is a dedicated interface? Would you mind sharing your setup? Do you have a recommendation re a good interface for vdrums? Thanks!

Reply To: Best way to achieve lowest latency with vdrums? version: 3.1.4
Operating system: Windows 10

[Mani10]

Hello,

This seems like the best place to put this question- I have a Roland TD50 and I’m running SD3 via my desktop CPU. My setup is- USB midi from TD50 runs to USB 3.0 port on desktop. Using ASIO4ALL drivers. Using lowest amount of samples / lowest buffer settings. Here are my results as they appear in SD3 under settings/midi in/edrums:

 

Device Type: ASIO, ASIO device: ASIO4ALL2 ASIO control: ASIO = Output latency- 1.8ms, Buffer latency- 1.5ms samples 44100

Device Type: ASIO, ASIO device: TD50  ASIO control: ASIO = Output latency- 5.1ms, Buffer latency- 1.1ms samples 44100

Difference here being the device type used- TD50 vs ASIO4ALL

 

My subjective feeling is using device type TD50 gives slightly better response? Does this mean the only thing that matters here is the buffer latency? The dynamics and feeling are still off when compared to playing with just the TD50 samples. Playing just the TD50 FEELS almost like you’re playing real drums, but then you have the roland sounds… Playing just SD3 samples sounds more like you’re playing real drums, but then the feeling is diminished / never quite there? My solution thus far has been to mix the two together, which for me has produced pretty good results with a roland / SD3 hybrid sound- mostly SD3.

My question here is- is there any way to make these latency results lower? Is it the latency that I’m picking up on while just using SD3 samples that makes my experience diminished? Or is SD3 still just limited in its capacity to work with vdrums at this point? What sort of adjustments might be made?

Thanks in advance for any input!

Mani

Operating system: Windows 10

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