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Just an update, as I did get it working on both my work laptop and my older personal laptop once I obtained a USB-C to USB-C cable and downloaded the driver for the FocusRite box.

In both cases I was able to hear the sounds generated from the kit with much less delay, almost nil, using the FocusRite Solo.

What I found surprising is that with my work laptop (newer model) I didn’t have to play with the buffer size that much when I loaded a custom VH kit I purchased. On my personal machine, there’s cracking and pops all over the place no matter how large the buffer.

I was under the impression that by using the FocusRite it would alleviate any of the potential processor power issues my laptop might be having. Is that not the case?

Be that as it may, it looks like my best bet here on out is to create a custom kit on the TD-17 itself and not even use the FocusRite, and if I want to use SD3 for custom kits I purchase, I’ll have to run it off a better laptop.

[machine_74]

Thanks, I had a rough weekend after I went back to GC and got very sick, so I put all this aside for a few days while I recover. Just a bad weekend all around, but moving on.

I’m going to download SD3 to a newer laptop I have at home and run it without the interface to see if it runs better. If it does, it’s my current laptop that can’t keep up.

Then I’m going to do what Mark suggested above; the only issue is that my laptops only have one USB-2.0 Type port. If one is from the Roland, I’ll have to find a USB-C to USB-C to connect the interface to the laptop.

[machine_74]

Update: I watched the video below, and went to Guitar Center to purchase an audio interface.

I went with this one plus a 5-pin Midi cable

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Focusrite/Scarlett-Solo-USB-C-Audio-Interface-Gen-4-1500000401654.gc

When I went to hook up the Midi cable to my kit, I discovered that the Scarlett had only an XLR (mic) input, not a 5 pin Midi. Thanks, Guitar Center.

Just drove back there to get an adapter and another peron said it wasn’t possible to do what I want to do, and that I shouldn’t need to with my laptop handing it. He said it would take another device for more than $300, so I looked through all the Scarletts they had there and they all have XLR, not 5 pin Midi connections.

The Scarlett hooked up to my PC and was powered just fine, just can’t connect to my drum set.

If someone were to tell me it has to go Roland to the laptop vua USB, and then the Scarlett to my PC via a double sided USB-C, and NO connection from the Scarlett to my kit, I might be able to do that. Other than that this won’t work.

I’m going to try installing SD3 on a different laptop and checking for latency without the audio interface. Maybe much more expensive AI’s have the midi connection like the one in the YouTube video, but I’m surprised the Scarletts at this level don’t.

 

 

 

[machine_74]

Just downloaded ASIO4ALL and the latency is much less. The sounds aren’t perfect, a little feedback on some–so I’m going to jump to Guitar Center and grab a Scarlett interface. Worst case, if it doesn’t improve things, I take it back. They have both a 2i2 and Solo in stock, and guessing the former is overkill for what I want (just drums).

[machine_74]

I don’t have a Midi port on my laptop, unless they carry a 5 pin to USB cable.

Also–I realize the idea of the separate audio interface has been brought up multiple times, but that’s the purpose of a discussion. Some have claimed they can get SD3 to work with their kits without one and I’m gathering intel. Thanks.

[machine_74]

I gotta say, with a $1500 kit and a $300 software program, another physocal add-on never came up when purchasing any of it. I know that’s how they “get you”, but I feel like this should work without the additional module. Who knows.

[machine_74]

I’m familiar with the midi cable and I don’t have one going to the laptop, just the USB cable. I’m not 100% certain it’s a “high speed” USB cable.

[machine_74]

I hooked it all back up again and got sound out of my laptop; the output in SD3 was set to the TD-17 but I changed it.

Sounds are coming through, but there’s still like a 1/4 second delay and it’s unplayable like this.

So I looked at the buffer size and it won’t go below 64, no matter which device type I choose.

Link to photos of the settings I have available to me:

 

 

[machine_74]

I’ll have a look at this tonight when I get home from work. If it doesn’t work with all these suggestions, I’ll document what I have set.

Thanks all for replying so quickly.

[machine_74]

Honestly, I may have done that tinkering around in the program, but I’ll verify tonight. If it doesn’t work I’ll mark that off the checklist. Sorry I’m new to this whole program.

[machine_74]

When I say it sounds terrible, there’s some residual echoing and the sounds come out deleyed. When I strike the pads of cymbals there’s a noticable delay, and it’s unplayable with that kind of feedback.

Also Shootie–I’m using SD3, not EZD3.

I’m finding that when I look at the output settings it’s letting me choose a delay value and it won’t go below 5.6ms.

So all in all, suggestion is to tweak the buffer size in the software and module, so I’ll have to revisit how to do that.

I’m not using an audio module. I have my kit hooked up to my laptop via USB, standalone SD3 installed on my laptop.

[machine_74]

Yeah, I’ve had this machine for a while but I work in IT, so I know what to keep and what to uninstall. I don’t use a DAW< I run it as a standalone app with nothing else running on it.

I got the 5.6ms latency figure from the Roland module itself. It’s reporting that number.

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[machine_74]

Thanks for all the advice. No that wasn’t a typo, that’s my laptop’s processor 🙂 I wasn’t planning on replacing it this tax season as I have another desktop to replace for the kids, but….it might be worth testing on a different machine. I have some at work I could borrow and then wipe after I test, should my SD3 licensing allow.

[machine_74]

Ryanrrr wrote:

Theres a guy called Martin whos pretty well known on all the groups and fourms under the name of becuase.drum.geek – search him on facebook, as he does online set up via zoom I think, not sure what he charges.

But personally, you would hugely benefit from buying an RME babyface audio interface. It will outsource all the audio processing from your computer to it and will be able to handle the audio mucher easier at much faster speeds (compared to both the roland module and computer).

Maybe buy one from an online retailer (who offers a 30 day return windows) to test it. If it works keep it, if it doesnt send it back.

so the chain would be:

roland module > laptop to play sd3 > rme babyface audio interface, which is where you would plug your headphones into

Dw its worth the struggle in the end lol – sd3 is awesome

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Thank you, I’ll give that forum a shot. I feel like I’m close to figuring it out.

Took a look at that Babyface unit–$1k! Hoping for a cheaper alternative/setting/fix.

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