Mac McCormick
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Mac McCormickI started on EZ Drummer and then, rather quickly, upgraded to SD3. And yes, I love SD3. It’s just that it is getting long-in-the-tooth and there have been no major updates to it since I purchased it 2020. It seems that only new Superior products Toontrack works on now, other than MIDI Grooves, are SDX’s. And lately it seems that every new product or upgrade that’s released is just EZ-This and EZ-That.
I have heard nothing about an update to SD4, and I totally understand that companies are not in the habit of sharing information about future products. But it’s been 9 years since SD3 was released. (Sept, 2017)
My guess that the EZ category is more profitable for Toontrack than Superior Drummer is. Witness that the EZ line is pretty much all they’ve expanded upon for the last several years. So I get the feeling that there will be no Superior Drummer 4. There are a lot more hobbyists out there than there are professionals and when it comes down to it, companies are in business to make money. So, from a business perspective, working on EZ products while shelving or dragging their feet on SD3, makes perfect sense.
My 2 cents…
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Thanked by: TorgulMac McCormickAccording the the Toontrack website there are 4 of them:
https://www.toontrack.com/product-category/midipacks/?genre%5B%5D=10&sortby=product-line
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Mac McCormickEvery kit has demo files on its home page. For instance, go to:
https://www.toontrack.com/product/superior-drummer-3/ and scroll down to “Audio Demos”
Each SDX also has audio previews of the kits that are included in that expansion pack.
If you already own Superior Drummer 3 just play some of the grooves that come with it.
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Thanked by: adiaz7531Mac McCormickDrumjack,
Oh, I totally get it. I’ve worked for a number of music software companies and have heard horror stories from other tech support folks as well. One of the best ones was back when the Mac’s were in two pieces with the monitor sitting on top of the computer case. (See Macintosh II) It went something like this:
I can’t see Finale on my computer screen.
Is the computer turned on?
Yes,
Is the monitor turned on?
Yes
Is the monitor connected to the computer? ”
I don’t know
Can you go to the back of the computer to check?”
It’s too dark to see anything back there because our power is out.
One of those, “The problem seems to be between the computer and the chair”, moments.
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Thanked by: drumjack52Mac McCormickEven more basic:
Is your computer plugged in?
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Mac McCormickI know nothing about Logic, but most DAWs have a drum map editor which you make only once for each kit you have and then you can choose which one to use for any given kit. I’m a Cubase guy and there are many places to download free drum maps for that DAW. You can also build your own. And while doing this is a PITA, you only have to do it once and your done.
Cubase Pro, Korg Kronos, M-50, Hammond XK-1c, Toontrack SD3, EZBass w/lots of expansions, many VSL Vi's, Shreddage 3 everything, and shit-tons of FX plugins.
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Thanked by: Burn Witch BurnMac McCormickThanks for the response!
I don’t think I have any other Instrument plugin that don’t allow for the changing of MIDI channels. And you’re right. It seems that EZBass is always in Omni mode.
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Mac McCormickI too am always looking for odd time signatures. The only EZBass MIDI packs I know of that have some odd time sigs are Fusion (7/8 and 9/16), and Modern Funk (7/8).
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Thanked by: MagiskeldMac McCormickI don’t know why Steinberg would not use the .drm windows suffix for Dorico but my guess is that it has something to do with music notation. And that makes sense since Dorico would need extra information for that.
Most all of the drum maps on my download page I made in Cubase myself. (many of the EZX maps I found online for free and included them on my page)
In researching your problem I see that you can also build your own percussion maps in Dorico. It’s kind of a PITA, is somewhat tedious, and can take a bit of time, but it seemed worth i to me. So I found these relevant links:
https://forums.steinberg.net/t/how-to-percussion-maps/916168
https://archive.steinberg.help/dorico_elements/v2/en/dorico/topics/play_mode/play_mode_percussion_maps_defining_custom_t.html
The last link is to free percussion maps for Dorico. I don’t see any Toontrack maps there, but maybe you have some of the other plugins mentioned on this page
I hope this helps you out!
-mac
Cubase Pro, Korg Kronos, M-50, Hammond XK-1c, Toontrack SD3, EZBass w/lots of expansions, many VSL Vi's, Shreddage 3 everything, and shit-tons of FX plugins.
Mac McCormickI don’t know if I understand your question. You can drag the audio into the tracker and let SD3 “decode” it and then you can put that audio file anywhere you want.
You can audition the resulting MIDI with any of the SD3 libraries. But it will take some time to load the samples with each library change.
Cubase Pro, Korg Kronos, M-50, Hammond XK-1c, Toontrack SD3, EZBass w/lots of expansions, many VSL Vi's, Shreddage 3 everything, and shit-tons of FX plugins.
Mac McCormickMy guess is that all of their resources are being used on Superior Drummer 4. It’s a logical consideration in that EZ Drummer 3 now has features that SD3 does not. But that is certainly no excuse for their lack of fixing products that they have acknowleged have problems. I don’t know what has happened with Toontrack. I do remember when they were a great company, their updates were solid, and they were responsive to users’ issues on these forums. Now, none of that is true. It seems they have lost their way and at this point are mostly involved in making money by trying to gain new customers at the expense of taking care of their existing ones. This is the same thing that has happened with other plugin companies that have gotten too big for their britches. (you know of whom I speak…)
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Thanked by: Richard MarusarzMac McCormickIf your MIDI controller or electronic drum set isn’t showing up in the manufacturer presets or want to have a custom MIDI map for your controller, you can use the MIDI Learn function which assigns the sample to the pad of your choice. To do this, select the sample you wish to change in the MIDI In/E-Drums settings, click Learn, then hit a pad. For more information, visit the MIDI Mapping section of the Superior Drummer 3 manual.
Courtesy Sweetwater Sound
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Mac McCormickAt the bottom of the Tracker Window you will see two lanes. (See image)
Using these for both instrument recognition and velocity levels will let you easily remove the unwanted tom hits.
I assume that the tom bleeds are softer than the kick so just rasing the velocity ‘bar’ will filter out all the extraneous hits.
Cubase Pro, Korg Kronos, M-50, Hammond XK-1c, Toontrack SD3, EZBass w/lots of expansions, many VSL Vi's, Shreddage 3 everything, and shit-tons of FX plugins.
Mac McCormickI have purchased Drum MIDI from Odd Grooves and they map their drums for a number of different drum plugins including EZ Drummer and Superior Drummer 3.
Cubase Pro, Korg Kronos, M-50, Hammond XK-1c, Toontrack SD3, EZBass w/lots of expansions, many VSL Vi's, Shreddage 3 everything, and shit-tons of FX plugins.
Mac McCormickGood to hear! Glad I could help out!
Cubase Pro, Korg Kronos, M-50, Hammond XK-1c, Toontrack SD3, EZBass w/lots of expansions, many VSL Vi's, Shreddage 3 everything, and shit-tons of FX plugins.
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