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I think toontracks decision to record 5 string Bass’s was a good one. Otherwise everyone would be complaining about not having the lower notes the 5th string provides. That said I’m a 4 string user myself, so my suggestion is simple, have a feature to not allow notes below the bottom E and to have a picture of a 4 string bass on the bass tab.  Of course this involves work on their end, but not a great deal since there would not be a need to resample , only a new picture and a midi filter.

I think toontracks decision to record 5 string Bass’s was a good one. Otherwise everyone would be complaining about not having the lower notes the 5th string provides. That said I’m a 4 string user myself, so my suggestion is simple, have a feature to not allow notes below the bottom E and to have a picture of a 4 string bass on the bass tab.  Of course this involves work on their end, but not a great deal since there would not be a need to resample , only a new picture and a midi filter.

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And can we please rename the parts!  Like Bridge 1, or Alt 2, etc.

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Thanked by: T-Bone Hood

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i got stuck by the drag n drop from my daw not allowing it either, then i discovered that you can simply hit the record button in ezbass and record the midi in from your track, onto a song track, which is not the same as tracker.  i would think you should just do your temp bass midi performance then record your final edit right into the ezbass song track, avoid the exporting and dragging dropping. as u know theres more then 1 way to do things, its really a matter of finding your own workflow, but a tool like this may change it.

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Id check that the tempo you set in your daw is also set in ezbass. try follow host too.

Ezkeys can actually be used as a midi input on a different instruments track as it can send midi out, so i’d assume ezbass can do that too. so you could leave the midi in ezbass and just have it trigger your ezkeys track.

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Thanked by: guitarplayerdan

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i think you may need to add it to the midi track before you can copy paste

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I have no doubt that after the ground breaking features of Ezbass that an Ezkeys up grade will have to follow.

I just started using ezkeys again now after several days of ezbass  because ezbass inspired me,  it even has the add keyboard midi feature, and i was instantly frustrated that i could not use a midi grid editor or have more than a single song track,  I just got spoilt in ezbass!

It would seem that a lot of the ground work is done since SD3 and Ezbass have similar features too. I have no doubt that Ezkeys will adopt the same formula, since it looks like a winning one, and even more so when SD3, Ezbass, and ezkeys can be so tightly integrated.   let the secret out toon track! (or at least add the midi grid editor and an extra song track)

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Thanks Olof, Here are the notes ,pic,  and and zip  file of project  to re-create the bug.  Cheers, Luke
Bug 1
Goto bar 125
select Green Bridge
Delete or Cut
All midi downstream slides later out of sync  (as in the picture)

undo before next bug test

Bug 2
Goto bar 125
select Green Bridge
Copy , (or Option Drag)
paste it anywhere
All the other bridges midi now changes, except the one you just pasted.  Most noticeably the G notes drop to D

Bug 2 /Method 2
Deleting any midi clip before bar 106 also changes the Bridges midi

Bug 3
Selecting Chords to extend them to bar heads and tails, or delete chords also changes the midi randomly, not always, but often.
Note that the Verse Chorus section before bars 106 do not have these issues.

My song building process
I used tracker to create the midi before editing it in the song track.
I worked on the first half (verse, fill, chorus) before bar 106 with no bugs,  it is more strait forward then the outro.
A day latter i tracked the outro section, a few parts at a time.  tracker left many gaps in the chords which i would expect, so i ignored that for now as i would just patch them once i’m done editing the bass line midi for the whole song, then i could correct the chord changes and boundaries last.  I cant help but feel the chords being chopped up with gaps have something to do with these bugs.

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Thanked by: Olof Hermansson

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Hi Olof,

that sounds like the best way.  how should  i best send the file and notes to you?

Thanks

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no mine is different although i will need to watch for that.

If copy and paste a section, the piece that I copied from changes some of it’s midi notes when i perform paste down stream.  In my case several notes that were all the same were moved to a different note.  I experimented with Cut n paste, then re-paste the copy, option drag to make a duplicate, even dragging it to the user midi and back again, but ultimately the big keeps returning when just copying or deleting sections around in the song track.   Also if i just delete a section it will at times move all the midi downstream out of sync, the chords and color section stays put, the midi slides. something has to be corrupt.

Reply To: Midi Changes on song track Bug! version: 1.0.5
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

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Thats interesting as I’m on a Mac with Pro tools and you are on Windows with Cubase, so it must be a ezbass plugin software issue. If it could behave the same as SD3 that will fix it!

btw the band-Aid is to drop your songs midi track onto a Daw track, freeze from there.

Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

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Steve, I only just thought of this, but in Pro tools there is a way to view midi as score, not sure about tab, but other apps convert score to tab. I’m sure protools is not the only daw that does this. So try drag your EZbass midi into your daw and go from there. Again having the 4 string limitation here would be most helpful.

another reason I want 4 string limitation is because I’d love to learn what EZbass is playing by watching it on the bass tab, and I use a 4 string bass. After I finish my song track I may wish to learn the part to record it on my real bass. This would be awesome for that. I’m not a real bass player, I’m a guitarist, but I like playing bass riffs.

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Export song track to bass tab , how about that for a feature 😁

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Hey James,  I understand your pov, I’m thinking this idea would be more for tracker, recording in bass lines from guitar or bass, and therefore forcing it to translate the performance to only the 4 strings so that the notes can’t be accidentally interpreted below bottom E.  Or even better for me  to exclude the string completely and translate only to the 4 strings.   I think of this as just a midi filter preference, not unlike changing the dynamic range, velocity range, etc. we are talking pitch/frequency.  If i could i would just select a preference called “4 string mode”, see just a 4 string bass, for me, i’d really like that as it matches my real bass/guitar i’m using to capture the performance and visually would make more sense for me.

Im not saying that it needs to be a new toontrack EZX, but maybe a feature to select mode. don’t get me wrong as i think its better they recorded the Bass’s as 5 strings for extra low note options!

There’s many apps that limit notes that can be played on purpose. chord generators, arpeggiators etc.

As you say Auditioning midi from the grooves would make no sense to limit the strings, and performing from a midi device you get what what you play so its not necessary there, unless you hit a low E and would rather it appear as an open E string than the 5th fret of the B, even though its my understanding that these notes are using the same samples.

honestly though, it’s not really that big a deal. what we have is amazing.

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I also think it would be cool for a preference to exclude the 5th string, to force to only 4, basically a note filter.  Id even rather see that on the Bass tab image too.

The reason for a 5th string is great and i think totally makes sense when designing and recording this software, but many of us are use to 4 strings, so no need to argue about it, its just a simple feature request, don’t use it if you don’t want it.

I really dislike it when users try to convince others that their way is wrong, maybe try to just explain how you like to work, but don’t expect that thats how others want to work.

Honestly when i look at a 5 string, as I’m not use to it, i often get tricked as to which note i’m looking at!   not a big deal, but hey, limit to 4 strings, great preference to have in the future.

 

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Still waiting for a response from toontrack.

this is really annoying, can i please remove the demos?

 

thanks

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