Lobstafari
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LobstafariI get that with a front of house sound, changing kits on the fly the sound won’t not work and the soundman gonna be like wtf, whats happening. Absoloutley right, bad mix probably guaranteed.
But in my case, I have a zoom L20 mixer. It allows me to save my presets, and then I have a good soundsystem. I play through that all the time so I’m developing good mixes for these different kits. I even have a welded stage that allows me to forklift my whole setup one time, so I literally move everything at once. my insta is @lobstafari
But the problem is not the mix, its switching kits in SD3.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariI have a gig performer file with only one rackspaces because I run so much shit in there, when I start to copy this madness into another rackspace it can take forever to load. I run 3 instances of SD3(trap kit 32 out, trap kit 2 out, roland spd-sx), two singers with fx, backing tracks, and then a ton of routing from SD3 to all sorts of delays and reverb, etc. most the effects are mapped to my Akai midi controller so I can get real nuts in real time.
I save the “snapshot” of this one rackpsace for each song in my setlist, but if I have to change kits, I have SD3 open and I manually change to a different user preset. I wish there was a way to set a macro so that you could cycle through user kits, then I could map the macro to a widget and set that widget to the preset of the song and it would change. Otherwise I’m sort of stuck, I don’t like changing manually changing kits, but when I duplicate this rackspace 4 times, the project takes 1:07 to load on a M1 with 64GB RAM vs. 0:16 with only 1 rackspace.
I get that the ideal scenario is 1 rackspace per each unique drumset, so maybe the approach is do that for now and use global rackspace where possible to reduce the quantity of plugins…
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariEJIS if you want to do a zoom sometime I’d be more than happy to see what you got going on and see if I can give any advice. I am super successful with SD3 on two drum sets. I travel with a laptop, sit down, plug it in and my kit at band practice and have the same experience at there that I do on my kit at home.
SD3 is not as simple as the brain module because it simply has infinitely more parameters and mixing capabilities. Once you wrap your head around how mostly everything works together it starts to fall in place, but theres going to be a long lead learning curve that you will actually enjoy once the unknowns are demystified. Need to have faith that its the best thing out there, and thats its only complicated and giving you unwanted results because you just don’t fully understand it yet and I’m down to help.
HMU @lobstafari@gmail.com if youre down
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariIlja, my point is that you can set the volume slider to a macroparameter. Then if you have a software like gig performer, it will let you map digital knobs to macro parameters. So I have a virtual plug-in rack with a virtual knob and that knob now controls the master volume of the kit. Then using gif performer still, I map that virtual knob to a knob on a physical midi controller I have. You can see it in the bottom left of my picture. Now that physical knob is controlling the master volume of SD3. So I can just bring that down if I need to.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariPetter, is there a place to formally request features so I can add this or can you forward this for me?
It would be so great if there was a user kit selection that could be changed by a dial that could be assigned to a macroparameter. Then drum sets could be selected via a midi controller (or in my case by rackspace variations within gig performer). the advantage is to be able to change the drum sets without having to have a separate plugin instance running, or by having to to actually and go in and click load the set while on a gig.
https://www.toontrack.com/forums/topic/feedback-and-feature-request-superior-drummer-3/
You can request all you want but to get something actually implemented is pretty much hopeless!
Toontrack in a nutshell !
Bro you have such a bad attitude towards such an amazing piece of software. Its the best in the biz hands down, bar none. If you don’t get that then you’re more than likely a novice who can’t appreciate the complexity of their work. And for the record, I’ve seen requests like “make the mixer channels moveable” happen in the latest updates so they do listen and act (despite you claiming they do not). The guy even said he’d take this particular request up the food chain as its a relevant request.
Why don’t you go expend all this negativity somewhere else so I don’t waste my time getting updates on you complaining.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariPetter, is there a place to formally request features so I can add this or can you forward this for me?
It would be so great if there was a user kit selection that could be changed by a dial that could be assigned to a macroparameter. Then drum sets could be selected via a midi controller (or in my case by rackspace variations within gig performer). the advantage is to be able to change the drum sets without having to have a separate plugin instance running, or by having to to actually and go in and click load the set while on a gig.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariHaha ok dude, whatever. SD3 is tha bomb, I recommend it all the time. I don’t know what else you would even recommend as nothing even comes close.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariSolution: I use an Akai Midi Mix controller with gig performer for live performance. I mapped the main audio volume of SD3 to macro parameter 1, then made it so that the upper limit is 0 dbs. Then I mapped macro paramter 1 to a widget in performer, and then mapped that widget to the fader on the midi controller. Now when I need to click on an instrument I can just reach over and slide the fader down, do what I have to do, then slide the fader all the way. The upper limit ensures that I always go back to 0db and its super easy.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariGuys you’re fruistrated because you havent figured it out but let me assure you, it can be figured out.
First you have to dial in your triggers on your vdrums first. When you click on an instrument in the drum area of SD3, that sound it makes is the loudest sound that that instrument can trigger. If your drum pad at your hardest hit isnt coming close to the volume of that clicked sound, then your trigger sensitivity is too low. You need to ensure that your brain is reading your hit on the pad at a relevant intensity. If you’re hitting it hard and its interpreting it as a soft hit, you need to dial that in or SD3 will interprete it as a soft hit. Do this for every trigger. There are lots of great youtube video explaingin how to do this as you should do this regardless if you are using SD3 or your drum module.
SD3 isnt maximized like most audio (especially audio on youtube) so it can be quiet in comparison. I resolved this by buying a small cheap mixer. I have the headphone jack from my computer go to one channel on the mixer and I make sure all computer audio is being sent to the headphone jack. Then I have an interface and I make SD3 go through that, and the interface goes to a different channel on my mixer. Then on my mixer I can easily adjust the volume of balance between computer audio and SD3. Then you want to make sure your output volume on SD3 is good (I try not to be +/- on the main volume slider at the bottom right of the drum window), the output volume on the interface isnt clipping, and then you can play with the volume fader on your mixer. You’ll get better at adjusting the mixer levels, the interface level and then the mixer level. I do not recommend adjusting the instrument volume in the drum window, you should keep that at 0 and do your volume adjustment in the mixer window.
Some of the older expansion packs are much quieter than the new ones, not all samples in all the expansions are recorded at the same volume level. Fields of rock is an incredible expansion, but if you load a snare from the superior drummer core library into fields of rock expansion, you’ll be amazed how much quieter the core library snare it is. I don’t really use any older expansions anymore because the newer ones give you such a juicy signal. Fields of rock is amazing, go buy it.
My last piece of advice is have faith and keep going. This shit is complicated because you can do so much with it. It can get frustrating but you have to push on. You’ll get there and it will be well worth the effort, and there will be effort. They have given you so much it can feel overwheleming but the light at the end of the tunnel is worth all of the trial and error. SD3 is way better than any module ever.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariI agree and I made a post on this as well. I have to lower the master volume just to be able to click on a drum and it sucks having to do this every time. A master “auditioning level” is the greatest idea ever. Toontrack hook it up PLEASE!
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariI was under the impression that midi was the universal language across all midi devices.
So hypothetically, if the tambourine groove is a performance using midi notes 3,4 & 5 to trigger a tambourine, then exporting that midi region should export a performance using midi notes 3,4 & 5. Then if I play that using the midi player it should play a performance of midi notes 3,4 & 5 thereby triggering superior drummer to play midi notes 3,4 &5 which is mapped to tambourine. Isn’t that how its supposed to work?
If you have a keyboard and you make a midi performance, then use that midi to trigger another keyboard, would you expect the notes to be different?
I’m saying this in order to layout my thought process in case I am making an incorrect assumption along the way, thanks!
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariBen Crooks you are a lifesaver. This is also a great way to share a midi performance with someone that deosnt have the same expansions.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariI have the same issue I believe. I have midi data on a logic channel with superior drummer (SD3). Inside superior I have an export of the midi that is on the logic channel. When I mute the one inside SD3, the logic midi trigger a functioning hihat. When I mute the midi on the logic channel and use the same midi track inside of SD3, the hi-hat seems to have lost the foot pedal action. The notes are there but now I’ve lost the expression of the entire performance.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
LobstafariI have new york studios 1-3, reggae, gospel, pop-punk, hansa, in the pocket, death/darkness, and fields of rock.
Fields of rock is so amazing, the articulations on the snare, especially the VK cast bronze in the live room are real game-changers, just totally insane. Its as close to playing a real snare as I’ve ever had, the tones on the snare as you move from the cleaner dry center hit to that beautiful ring towards the rim are just phenomenal. It makes me play the snare so much better I really play and get a world of tones from it my band and I are just astounded that were hearing edrums. The presets in the live room and the dry room are so good right out of the box I just can’t speak highly enough about this. Volumes are also higher and its pretty much the only expansion you need (although the sidestick from in the pocket, Ludwig Supraphonic is my goto. That sidestick is worth the expansion alone in my opinion)
Right on Toontrack, it keeps getting better and better but then this was just totally mind blowing. If this is where expansions are heading just take my money now please.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
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If you hold shift when you drag a single note it works to only change the velocity of that note! I have Monterey and its working.
TD50 > Midi cable > Motu Mk4 > M1max Macbook Pro 64GB ram > Mac OS Monterey > SD3
SPD-SX, PD14-DS, VH14, CY-18DR, KD-80, Roland Pads/Cymbals
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