[joblake326]

yeah I guess that’s better scrolling through a list

[joblake326]

I have a Yamaha DTX502.  Snare drum has 2 triggers or MIDI notes, one for snare head and one for side stick.  Cymbals have 3.  Like it or not, those are all called articulations.  Yes.  I know I can control the level of each and every one of these “sounds” on the main page.  I was hoping that there would be a way, via the mixer, to apply mixer effects to any of these “sounds”. Like if I just want to crisp up my snare drum sound, or brighten the “bell” of my cymbal, I’d like to be able to apply some high end EQ to either or both of these—in much the same way that the level can be changed.  However, I have concluded that it can’t be done because SD3 isn’t designed to allow a mixer channel to be inserted that far back in the signal path.

It has nothing to do with “the OP’s use of the word articulation”.

[joblake326]

Not sure why I’m confusing anyone.  I’m using the term “articulation” because that is the correct way to refer to the pre-mixer sounds that are produced as a result of the MIDI “notes” that are triggered by hitting the various pads on the kit; i.e. if I hit the snare head, that triggers note 38: Snare: Center.  That is called an articulation.

If I want to adjust the LEVEL of any of these “articulations”,  I can do it in the main page by selecting the desired articulation in the drop down menu.  This level adjustment precedes the mixer thus affecting the level of that sound all the way through to the output.  Including any and all bleeds.  Same is true if I adjust the pitch.  It affects that particular sound all the way to the output along with the bleeds.

So what I’d like is to add even more controls to that “pre-mixer” sound; i.e. EQ, reverb, whatever.

That’s why I was thinking it would be a mixer control, but it seems as though what I’m looking to do isn’t physically possible simply due to the way the program works.

[joblake326]

Thanks so much for a very thoughtful answer.  And I am sorry that my question was not worded as it should’ve been.  After reading your response(s), I think that it’s the bleeding of various articulations into microphone mixer channels that’s making things murky for me.  Before having my eyes opened here, I just figured that if I want to adjust the snare level, then I would be able to do that with the channels that were labeled “snare…”.  But even if I muted those “snare” channels, I could still hear all sorts of snare sounds coming through….and I guess this is where “bleed” levels come into it since the snare, etc. are coming out of the various microphone channels.  And maybe this is why I “think” I wanted to have a mixer channel that could be setup to adjust the snare level—before it went to the other mixer channels, again, just like the LEVEL control on the main page.; i.e. I want a mixer control that processes the raw or dry snare (or any other articulation)  before it goes anywhere else.  If I’m still not making my question clear, I’ll try the manual again.  Thanks again!

[joblake326]

Maybe I don’t understand so bear with me if this is a dumb question….do I really need to stack the kit piece with a duplicate?  Can’t I just use the existing instance?  In my example I’m just looking to route the snare to a mixer channel

[joblake326]

yeah like I said in my question, I understand that you can adjust any articulation level in the ‘Drums’ view.

What I’d like is a single control in the mixer that does the same thing, but now you have the added capability of adding EQ, reverb and other effects.

And as far as your method of shift+selecting all the snare channels, it’s not that simple since the snare also is coming through other non-snare channels.  Basically it’s all over the place.

I’d like one control in the mixer.

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