[jimmy2thailand]

I’m in the NY hit factory kit.  Want to add a new, seperate rim shot channel so I can raise and lower level without affecting the snare volume.  When I type in rim or side stick in the search it says T8 ri 1+2.  Not what Im looking for. How do I select the libraries to find a preferred rim shot and add it to it’s own channel strip in the mixer or to the boxes that appear left of the drum kit.  Please be specific.  Step by step…..dummy/newbie here

Reply To: Adding Instruments in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

• This post was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by jimmy2thailand.

[jimmy2thailand]

Hi Henrik

Once again spending fruitless hrs. on google, you tube, user manual, etc. to try and do something I am sure must be very easy.  Can’t find a solution.  Here’s my problem.  Want to trigger finger snaps on my midi keyboard.  I found them in pop library and have added them to my kit (see attach).  They play when I touch them with the mouse.  It says they are on B6, midi note 107  but when I hit that key on my midi controller they are not there.  Have tried using the midi mapping to replace something that I am not using like for ex. –  the sidestick with the snaps.  Since I can’t select the snaps from B6, I cant press the learn button to swap them in.  As you see they are also already added to my kit under intsrument 1.  How can I add them?  What am I doing wrong and how can I get them to sound on my midi keyboard so I can record them?

Reply To: SD3?LPX . best way to use together? version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

[jimmy2thailand]

Hi,

I want to play conga 2 of my latin percwith the note to the right of conga 1.  My mapping triggers the bongos, and conga 1 but “not” conga two.  If I select with the mouse it plays but can’t find the command to route/reassign/learn mapping conga 2 to (for example) midi key E 3.  I am equally confused when trying to add my latin percussion bank to an existing drum program using for ex. NY Avitar.  I tried to open a multi instance of sd3 and make a new AUV track using 3/4 instead of 1/2 which triggers my NY Avitar.  I couldn’t find a way to have both the NY Avitar and Latin Per running over one multi instance f sd3 and wound up having to open a whole new sd3 instance using only latin perc.  (more CPU right)?  After opening the 2nd instance of sd3 and loading the per, I still had the above mentioned problem of not being able to play congas 1 and two from adjacent keys.  Please help with these problems!!!

Thanks

Reply To: Using Latin Percussion EZX with Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

[jimmy2thailand]

Will try that Mark. Thanks. Jimmy

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

[jimmy2thailand]

Hi Henrik,  You never got back to me after my last question regarding not knowing how to midi mapping a roll articulation to a preset that doesn’t have the roll articulation available?  For example…N avatar has a roll on snare on thr middle Bb but the most others in the sd3 core library have no roll.  Also not listed in the articulations to click on or off.  Can I insert it somehow.  Whatever?  Maybe my question isn’t understandable or answerable.  One thing that has been driving me nuts that I really need to find out and have looked everywhere to find a solution without bugging you again is this.  I have somehow gave a command to my cymbals in certain places to play a choke when i don’t want one.  When I select or play the cy via midi or by hiting it in the drum window….it rings out the way I want and would expect.  In the song however at certain event locations there is a choke n the cy no matter what I do.  How can I toggle the choke on or off or get rid of it?  Is this a logic command doing this?  I have muted my logic sd3 drums and recorded them over to the sd3 but I can’t find anywhere where I can undo the choke articulation in the automation parameters?  Can you help?

Thanks

Jimmy

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

[jimmy2thailand]

Hi Henrik,

Wanted to let you know that as of today my time line is running correctly.  (Showing the proper locations in grid editor).  No need to ponder over what is wrong in my setup.  Don’t know why…It is showing the proper beat without the quarter beat shift????  all of a sudden?  Hope it stays that way.  Maybe I had to reload the whole logic/sd3 thing new for it to accept the time signature changes I made?  At any rate.  All is ok.  Just wanted to let you know.

 

I have one more small question that I couldn’t find an answer for in the tutorials and trouble shooting section.  Maybe you can shed some light on this when you have time.  I was using a NY Avatar drum kit originally when playing in my drums for my medley.  I changed though down the line and switched to the Premier Rock/ Superior Dr. Kit/preset which suited my song better.  On my middle G# midi note in the NY Avatar drumkit I had a drum roll.  After choosing the new kit I saw and heard that that midi note had an other articulation when I tried to change it to drum roll to correspond with the drums in my saw I saw that that articulation was greyed out and that I couldn’t choose it for the Premier Rock kit.  I’m sure it is just me being stupid again but could you tell me how I can make that midi note/sound correction so that the Premier Kit plays a roll on the middle G# as it did in the NY Avatar kit?

Thanks, as always for your help .  Otherwise all is running and sounding great.  Enjoy your weekend

Jimmy

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

[jimmy2thailand]

Sorry to bother you again Henrik.  I have inserted the time signature change on bar 114 to 2/4 and back again on 115 to 4/4.  When I play a loop in logic it starts on 114 as expected.  My grid editor in sd3 is however out of sync and start one quarter beat late.  Also, if I go to the beginning (bar one) the sd3 starts one quarterbar after bar one????  Hard to edit when the event bar in sd3 is running a quarterbeat late.  What am I doing wrong?  Please help.

Jimmy

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

[jimmy2thailand]

Hi Henrik,

Once again…thanks so much.  What I was trying to achieve using the stereo instance and track stacks (one for sd3 and one for the Latin perc.) was to try and create  discreet input lanes in my lpx arrange window where I could play in individual drums and then see the seperately in my piano roll.  That “did” work as you see when I made the trackstacks and created my individual midi instr..bd/sn/hh etc.  My concern was that when I was working in the mixer page that I had a SD3 track and also a BD track side by side which both gave out the same input and affected each other.  When I collapse the triangle however th e brown BD track no longer shows in my mixer and I only have the light green SD3 track which I can then gainstage/use neffects on/etc.  So I guess thats the way to do it.  The other explainations and solutions you provided have been helpful and have solved my problems there.  I’m having one more problem in my grid editor however that I hope you can clear up for me.  When I press/spacebar/play on my computer and start my host the sd3 grid editor starts playing at 3 quarter beats before 247 (where my cycle is set) . The positions are out of sync between the lxp and the sd3 making it hard to find the corresponding note/event that I am trying to edit in the grid editor.  Is there some offset going on in sd3 or in logic?  Can you explain this?   Could it have something to do with the 1 bar preroll I use when recording in logic??

The sd3 sounds awesome and the more I understand, the more I love it.  Thanks Henrik, for your patient assistance in helping me understand this for me rather complex drum daw.

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

[jimmy2thailand]

Hi again Hendrik,

I have been working with my Logic/sd3 setup for about a week now.  I have many issues and questions.  Hope you don’t mind.  I will try and solve most of them on my own through trial and error with the help of the groove 3 sd3 tutorial I purchased.  I have other issues though that are not covered in the tutorial.   I’ll start at the beginning.  As we spoke of earlier, my plan was to try and use the sd3 mixer/grid/groove/song creator as my main workplace.  I found however that working in the grid editor  is (at least up till now until I maybe get the hang of it) much harder than using the piano roll in logic.  Especially when it comes to undoing things and moving things around from instr. to instr.  When I grab/select a note or notes with the cursor in the sd3 editor and move things up or down with my mouse, they scroll like crazy up and down/left and right and I easily lose my place.  When I want to undo and revert to original I can’t seem to find how to do that.  I’m working on a medley right now and have done it in the template of  (hopefully you can remember how I asked you which logic/sd3 setup is recommended)?  a stereo sd3 instance.  After inserting various drum overdubs that I do in logic I then, as you suggested put sd3 into record and play them over into the sd3 track which then incorporates them with the many sd3 midi grooves I am using in the track which I select/construct and edit with the tap and find function.  After recording the logic overdubs into the track of the sd3 I guess I could then erase them from the logic arrange window Huh?  Otherwise if I didn’t mute them they would play twice?  Tweaking things kind of work in the sd3 grid editor and although like I said, I am much faster in the the logic piano roll, due to the fact that selected notes in the sd3 editor zip around when I am moving them from instr to instr. and I often lose my place.  The undo funtion does’t seem to help.  As you know of course control Z applies to logic and not to sd3 and often causes my sd3 to crash.  At any rate I have decided that after this project I will try making a multi instr. template in logic and use the sd3 more as a vst in my logic daw.  Gonna see if that makes for a better workflow for me.  I have asked in many logic and sd3 forums if anyone will share their experiences with me and tell me how they work using sd3 with logic but no one has answered me.  I find that kind of weird.  Maybe my questions are too basic or stupid and everyone but me has easily figured out the best way to work.  I have one more question that has e rather baffeled.  In my Logic mixer, after having set up my stereo instance and making a track stack, I have two sd3 tracks coming into the logic mixer.  (See attach.).  One is SD# (green) and to the right of it BD (rown) which is the first track of my track stack.  Both of these control the input of the sd3 into the logic mixer.  If I select either one and either solo/mute/ or move the faders up or down it affects the complete drum sound.  That means that I have two equal sd3 inputs on my mixer which I have to deal with when eqing or gain staging…whatever.  Seems to me like I, as usual, am doing something wrong in my routing or in the setup of my logic arrange window when I made my track stack.  Can you understand what I mean and maybe offer a solution?  I will include both arrange and track screenshots.  Like I said, after this session I will start the new one with a multi inst sd3 instead of a stereo and see if that workflow is more suitable for my work style.  At any rate Hendrik….Thanks for wading through my long winded and probably confusing description of my state of affairs.  I really do appreciate any help you can give me.

Best regards and again, apologies  for my ineptness.

Jim

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

[jimmy2thailand]

Got it!  Thanks again Henrik

 

jimmy

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

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[jimmy2thailand]

Hi again,

Saw what you meant and pulled the respective tracks into their track stack folders.  Now the whole thing collapses when I toggle the tr. stack triangel to close.  Good to use when mixing in the lpx arrange windows to limit the clutter of individual drum/perc tracks there since I’m mixing drums in sd3 anyway.  The solo however still doesn’t isolate the one midi track in the track stack even when I click on the region itself ( sn for example) . Logic plays everything from that track stack (in my case the BD too although only the midi track for SN is dark yellow).  I guess I can live with this problem,  I tried soloing the sn in the sd3 mixer and the bd was silent.  Any other way to get around this in logic so I just solo the intended midi data?  Tried soloing the midi events in piano roll but…same results.  Heard bd as well. I know this is actually a logic problem.  Hope I’m not bugging you.  ?

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

[jimmy2thailand]

So glad to have your input.  ‘ll be diving into the sd3 in detail with my sd3 and newly acquired groove 3 tutorials.  Great product (the best) and as a long time musician and software/harware user, I have never experienced a company or a team who supports their users like you guys.  I’ll give a shout if  I may in case I run into any trouble while learning the program.

Thanks Hendrik

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

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Thanked by: Henrik Ekblom

[jimmy2thailand]

Thanks Hendrik!

I appreciate your help very much!  I’ve been looking everywhere (you tube, mac lpx forums, sd3 forums, google.  Up till now no one and no where else has helped me in setting up a workflow between logic and sd3.  I totally love everything about toontracks.  The way you have  your PM app set up for download, upgrades and authorization is simply the best!!!!  Have been buying, upgrading, authorizing with Spectrasonics, NI, Logic, Izotope, etc. for many years and no one else does it as fast and easy as you guys.  Have already bought many midi packs and extras including the groove 3 SD3  toutorials.  Will be trying to educate myself as I go along.  I’m sending you an attachment of my LPX arrange page.  This is how I set it up, using 2 software Inst’s which I made trackstacks out of so I could play the various BD, SN, etc. in individually.  Inst 1 for the sd3 drum sounds and Inst 2 for the Latin Perc kit.  This approach may be wrong.  I couldn’t find anywhere explaining how to include the latin kit into whatever SD3 kit I am using so I just made a seperate software track.  Is that wrong??  Also, when working this way with the trackstacks I can’t solo or mute the individual BD, SN, HH. et midi tracks.  When I hit solo/mute it activates everything.  I can however record individually and edit in logic.  When I then use the grooves in sd3 I can pull them into the upper “complete” stereo sd3 or latin percussion track and all the instruments are on one stereo track.  I can then copy any individual instrs down to the corresponding bd, hh., whatever.. track in logic.  Do you have a better way to work?  Will be trying the coping over of lpx midi to sd3 tomorrow so I can eventually then working the sd3 song instead of in logic.  At any rate I’m on the way to being able to use lpx and sd3 together.  Any further help in helping me achieve a basic work template is, as I said greatly appreciated!!!

Jimmy

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

[jimmy2thailand]

Hi Mark, I “do” use it by opening the sd3 plug in in Logic.  Tried it with a stereo instance, hoping I could avoid the multi routings to the aux’s in Logic multi output mode and just use the grid and song construction in sd3. I know this is probably more of a logic question but I am sure there are tons of logic users who use sd3 and want to learn from their experience, the best way to input my midi drum hits into sd3 while also utilizing the grooves and fills at times as well.  It seems to me like it would be cool to work mostly in sd3 mixer/grideditor for most of the drum things and using lpx basically for the instruments and audio tracks.  Am I wrong to chose this workflow method?  It seems that if I treat sd3 like I do my (for ex.) NI session drummer, and create a multi output template in lpx I would be ignoring all the sd3 benefits of the mixer/grid editor/song creator.   I’m gonna try and go into so logic forums and see if anyone has a suggestion as to how best to use sd3 with lpx.  Can’t find any help in the tutorials I’ve seen thusfar.  Any help appreciated

I use LPX 10.4.2, on a 27" I Mac 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Apogee Quartett/ Superior Drummer 3 /all the Spectrasonics stuff/ NI Kontakt 5+studio drummer/ Izotope 8+ Neutron 2, Novation Mkii 61 SL keyboard

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