[JOHN BALL]

works thx so much

[JOHN BALL]

Thanks for taking the time on this issue. The explanation and back and forth on key centres etc although frustrating for you all to go through was helpful in getting my head around it. It’s true that the software isn’t subjective in how it represents chords played together in a certain order and when you think about what key you are really in, depending on what chord is next, it could be a different one all hinging on what you are playing over it (minor feel, major, diminished). I will explain how the glitch frustrates me .The way I use EZKEYS and EZBASS along with SD3 is in a songwriting capacity. Sometimes, the main idea will come from  EZK , the flexibility you can have with chords, inversion’s etc is amazing. I will have a chord progression in EZK and a beat in SD3 to save time (instead of playing the bass just yet) I’ll add EZB.  I drag the midi piano/keys into EZB and let it add a bassline. Almost always , EZB has the correct chords but the KEY is wrong. If you were teaching or something this would be a big problem because explaining why the chords and even the bassline that was created is correct but the key in EZB is different than the one in EZK would be impossible , it makes no logical sense to be honest. One would think that when the chord progression that was dragged into EZB, it would also default to the key that is being dragged/ imported in and keep the actual chords notes as it does now.
Audibly, it is good but even though the two GUI are linked together and one is set to follow. Thy show different keys. It’s ok just working on ideas but when you say, want to raise the key or lower it to accommodate your voice or a collaborator, this is where it gets frustrating. You raise the key a semitone or two, on the EZK GUI it shows the key you dragged it up or down to, ezb is not effected by this, you have to manually go in and adjust it up or down the semitones you need and because visually , it shows a different key overall from EZK it can get confusing especially if you enter the key manually , you have to adjust in semitones rather than key. If EZK is in D Maj after the key adjustment and you type in D major in EZB, it doesn’t change the chords / bassline (which are correct btw) to the same as EZK, it does it based on what the Song key is referencing in EZB.

In will say, you can get confused really easy with this . It turns this magic writing tool into a frustrating mess. I think the two GUI should link as a far as key signatures to and if there ever was a way to  have the system offer a master key choice , that would be great .if you sent this to someone to collaborate, you would need to tell them to disregard the KEY . Kind of backwards..

someetimes I export the tracks or a portion and run it into mixed in key to analyze the key, tempo etc so I know what key it’s in without doing the math everytime . But even when I do that, how can I get EZK and EZB to show the same chords they have now but change the KEY field in EZK and SONG KEY in EZB to show the same overall key?

one thing to add, if you dint have the correct key in EZK but the chords are ok it even adds another frustrating level , EZK and EZB sound great ,the actual chords, bassline etc, are good but each has a different overall key which is different that the actual key it is in.
sorry for the long winded question but I wanted to let you know of this frustration and see if I am missing something or if there is a workaround fix?

The more instruments you add like this and more midi packs it is going to get frustrating for songwriters who just want a simple tool to write with and get ideas .nothing squashes creativity like going down software or hardware rabbit holes,

 

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