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[Erwin Ew]

Hi Lukas!

My setup is as follows:
Roland TD12 MIDI out (5 pin cable) -> RME Fireface 802 -> Firewire cable to my desktop computer.
I’ve added a separate DeLOCK PCIe FireWire 1394A card. (USB to Firewire is not possible)
I’ve lots of USB hubs and devices connected to my PC, so I decided to add a separate Firewire card for audio only. The performance should be similar with USB. (I did not test this)

Some suggestions to decrease the latency is to tweak the ASIO buffer size and samplerate. Rule of thumb:
– A smaller the buffer size decreases latency, but increases ticks and distortion.
– A larger buffer size increases latency, but decreases ticks and distortion.
– A higher samplerate also increases latency. 44.1kHz or 48kHz is enough for Superior Drummer.

RME developed their own optimized audio driver and hardware for Windows and Mac to minimize latency. Steinbergs ASIO (Audio Stream Input Output) is especially designed for direct monitoring during recording and does say anything about latency.

Success!

[Erwin Ew]

I’ve purchased the first two SDX:

1. N.Y. – Avatar is shipped by default with SD2 (vol 1).
2. N.Y. – Allaire and N.Y. – Hit Factory are bundled with New York Studios vol 2.
3. N.Y. – Legacy continues vol 3 contains 3 kits, recorded in the Avatar studios.
These are different drumkits with their own sound.

I suggest Toontrack to put N.Y. – Avatar in the store as a separate SDX product, because it is currently only bundled with SD2.
See also this request: https://www.toontrack.com/forum/superior-drummer-3-help/n-y-avatar-kit-not-available-on-sd3/

[Erwin Ew]

Just my feedback about your original Roland question and latency:
I’ve a Roland TD12 as well with RME Fireface 802 audio interface (Firewire). I use Windows with Reaper and SD3 samples located on a normal 7200rpm harddisk, Intel Core I7.

My smallest possible buffer size is 64 Samples on 48kHz sample rate and no clicks and pops with SD3, but never tried this with SD2. This is similar to:
Output latency: 2.8ms
Buffer latency: 1.0ms
This is extremely good compared with other audio software which requires most of the times larger buffer sizes.

In a normal recording setup I always use 128 samples, 48kHz in Reaper with SD2 or SD3. Then it is also possible to add additional effects outside SD. This is similar to:
Output latency: 4.8ms
Buffer latency: 2.7ms

To be honest, I don’t hear/feel the difference between 64 or 128 samples.

For mastering I always use high buffer sizes such as 1024 samples where latency does not make sense.

My conclusion:

– SD3 has a very good performance and impossible to hear latency which makes it ideal for E-Drum recordings and playing live.
– An SSD decreases loading time at startup compared with a HD, but has no effect on playing when it’s loaded in RAM.
– Additionally, the whole repsonse of the kits in SD3 is much better, including the HH control. The dynamic range of the new kits is much better, even with a clean kit without any effects. I wish SD3 was 10 years earlier available.

I can’t say anything about MAC. Maybe this is helpful for others…

[Erwin Ew]

@Miroslavl said:
The only SDX update that I had issue with (and I think the devs are aware of it) is the “Custom & Vintage” pack.

Yesterday I’ve successfully installed the “Custom & Vintage SDX” with the updated “Superior Drummer v3.0.2” on Windows 10.
Note: I’m upgraded from SD2, so I’m not sure if this makes sense.

Maybe redownload the latestion version of the “Toontrack Product Manager”?

[Erwin Ew]

I solved this by upgrading the SD2 libraries with the Toontrack Product Manager.

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