drumjack52
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drumjack52That, my friend, is your problem. Not mine. And with a response as yours, I probably wouldn’t blame them for their dismissive attitude. However, anyone who knows me knows that if I said I’ve tried something, I have indeed done just that. Not to mention that they also know that I am not the type of entertain itchy ears, but somehow I think you might already be aware of that.
You’re not the only one who’s been doing this for decades. Not to mention the only cynic around (life has a way of doing that).
That being said, the very reason presets work the way they currently do is probably the same reason they grouped them as such. I’m sure they can figure out ways to make them upward compatible the best thing that can be done at this time is to submit a feature request. Either way doesn’t concern me much since I usually know where to find the user preset I am looking for since I would be looking for a specific sound associated to the producer who recorded them for the song at hand.
jord
Well being that I don’t know you my response was right on. Don’t know where you get I talked about people having a dismissive attitude towards me. You act like you know it all and don’t like when someone challenges your way of thinking. I don’t know what you have against me – have I wronged you in another lifetime? What is this ‘itchy ears’ thing anyways?
Jack
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drumjack52Of course I tried it! I’ve been using this software long enough to try many things people wouldn’t think of. 10 years of beta-testing their competitors has taught me to go beyond traditional use. TT was even to confirm some of the stuff I tried.
Perhaps, don’t be so assuming. You know what they say about that.
jord
I can’t assume that you tried what I wrote. I’ve learned to be a skeptic about things and need proof before accepting anyone’s statement. You could have said that you’d tried it and that would have ended the conversation. I don’t need a sermon on the subject. I’ve spent a lot of time (decades) making s/w do things the developers never thought of or said could be done. Same for h/w.
Your ‘Ive been doing this forever’ thing is wearing thin on me.
Jack
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drumjack52That won’t work as expected. It will try to load the preset in the current library rather than switch libraries and could cause some unpredictabilities.
jord
How do you know? Have you tried it? Just saying it won’t work without trying it doesn’t get it.
Jack
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drumjack52In a way SD3 gives a clue as to how to maybe solve this issue. Page 24 in the manual gives a clue. In the Drums and Mixer Presets tab there’s an option to ‘manage in Finder (Mac)’ or ‘manage in Explorer (Windows)’ What might work is to have duplicates of the presets in each of the folders done by working in either Finder (Mac) or Explorer (Win). Have actual duplicates in each and NOT use aliases or symlinks. Not a simple operation but it just might help out.
What I don’t know is do the presets make settings for a general setting like kick in level in say the core library or kick in in say Death & Darkness or whatever library? That is is it specific to a certain library or what?
Jack
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drumjack52I’ve been using this from the outset and have two expansions. You even have to go into the specific room in Hansa to get to a preset!
So I totally agree. Let us group presets how we like and sd3 can then choose the correct kit when we choose a preset. It’s a real pain trying to find a kit when you can’t remember what pack or part of a pack you created it in.
- This post was modified 3 years, 11 months ago by Mark King.
That’s weird that it happens in Hansa. I imagine it’s the same thing with D&D? What happens if you create a kit that’s a mix of a kit from say Hansa with some kit pieces from say Death? You’re in Hansa and use a kick from Death – does the preset get stored in Hansa? Or Death?
Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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drumjack52Thanks for mentioning this. I only have the core library right now; going to get Death & Darkness tomorrow so I’ll just have to deal with this. Would love to hear from one of the programmers as to why it’s this way.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
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3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52HI Thanks,
Yes sorry for the lack of info, MacBook 2017 Monterey 12.3.1. 16gb
Samsung T7
External powered USB Hub
I knocked the cable at the Usb3 CPU side port.
The test was to pull the usb cable a second time after resetting the Paths.
Interestingly I spotted that SD3 had renamed the drive in the path “T7 1” on the second reset.
The Drive did NOT have a Name change it was and is T7. Thanks again
Just a straight MacBook or MacBookPro?
Manually reset the paths and don’t muck about pulling the connections while powered up. That’s never a good thing to do if you can help it. The reason for the “1” is because SD3 is seeing it as a new or duplicate drive.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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PT 2021.6
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Thanked by: Braddrumjack52Mac or Windows? You give no system info at all although the phrase ‘disk utility’ would indicate a Mac of some sort.
Did you hot-plug the drive back in or do it with the power off? Even though a device may be hot-pluggable that’s not a good thing to do. Always power down everything, replug and then start up again. Since you mention Samsung I’m guessing it’s an ssd you’re talking about right? Is the hub powered or passive? If powered – bus power or external supply?
What did you do to lose the paths the second time? Did the connection lose it all on it’s own or what? Can you try things without the hub?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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PT 2021.6
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Hi all. I posted a link to this request this in Requests & Feedback. https://www.toontrack.com/forums/forum/customer-service/requests-and-feedback/
This thread request goes back two years. Might weigh in over there if still interested. The squeaky wheel and such….
Do you have a link to the specific thread over there? Thanks.
Jack
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drumjack52The MOTU M2 does have a button on it that lets me monitor what is being played (so I guess that is what they mean by direct monitoring), which I know that I can use, but I would prefer to hear the guitar with distortion if the end result is going to have distortion. Just to make sure everything sounds good as I’m playing it.
The image in that post was just of the splitter cable.
I found the ASIO setting and was able to select my audio interface, and by doing that, I’m getting about 4-5 ms of latency, which is awesome! I’ll still probably try getting one of those cables to see which method I like better, but thank you to everyone once again for all of your help! I greatly appreciate it!
Reply To: Recording Drums Directly From SD3 Into Reaper version: 3.2.7
Operating system: Windows 10
4 to 5 ms latency? That’s amazing. With that kind of latency you won’t need a splitter. Even a drummer would have no problem playing along with those numbers.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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PT 2021.6
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Thanked by: entner.chrisdrumjack52Does the motu have direct monitoring? Does it come with its own mixer? (Like RME or focusrite) if it does then you don’t need a splitter. Most audio interfaces allow monitoring before it goes through the DAW.
It’s confusing – the product page says the M2 has direct hardware monitoring but nothing is mentioned about CueMix which is the s/w that MOTU uses for some of their other interfaces that provides for I/O routing and direct h/w monitoring.
BTW – is there supposed to be some kind of graphic in post 2929082? I get a warning from Firefox that because of embedding Toontrack won’t allow whatever it is to show because of some security issue.
Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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drumjack52I’m using a Motu M2. I’ve installed the drivers for it, so I don’t know if it just isn’t showing up in the menu for some reason. It is an NVME drive, also.
MOTU stuff is good although their Windows support has in the past been a little sketchy. When you say it doesn’t show up in the menu are you talking about something in Reaper? Make sure that Windows isn’t trying to use the interface for it’s own sounds. Windows is notorious for not allowing sharing of an audio interface between system sounds and an audio program like a daw. If Windows IS using it that would be why Reaper might not see it. It’s a case of whatever sees the interface that grabs the use of it.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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PT 2021.6
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drumjack52I guess I started using ASIO4ALL when I tried using SD3 standalone, because I was getting a lot of latency using my audio interface’s drivers. I do have an audio interface, by the way! 🙂 Everything is on an SSD, but it’s on the same SSD. I did create a separate partition from my windows partition, however. I do have the “Cached” setting turned on in SD3 within Reaper. And I have 32 gigs of RAM. Is there a way to make sure SD3 is using as much of that as it needs?
I’m on a desktop, not a laptop. My CPU is an Intel i7-8700K, so I would think that would be good enough. But on the note of not using ASIO4ALL, I’m currently messing around with the other options in this window (see attached image). Which one of these systems would be the best one to use? And could you also help me with the settings that I should try once I select the best one?
Thank you again!…and again!!!
Reply To: Recording Drums Directly From SD3 Into Reaper version: 3.2.7
Operating system: Windows 10
None of those options are good – use the drivers for your audio interface. What is the exact interface that you’re using? Anything other than the specific drivers for it are going to give you issues. As far as the samples on the same ssd – if it’s an NVME type drive that would be okay. Anything else might be an issue. I have a separate ssd that just has my system on it, another just for samples and one for session.
Partitions on an ssd are not necessary. As a matter of fact they can lead to issues. Separate drives for things are good when it come to making backups of your system. That way when (not if but when) a drive fails you only temporarily lose that one drive. Run off the backup until the bad drive gets replaced.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
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drumjack52Thank you both for your quick and detailed responses! So my audio interface was disabled in the MIDI Devices menu in Preferences, so you helped me find and fix that. And then after switching the input to MIDI on the track (which I don’t know how I didn’t think to do that) everything is working exactly how I would like it to be working!
One last question. I am using ASIO4ALL and I have the buffer size as low as possible, so the latency is pretty minimal (but that shouldn’t be a concern because I do plan to only hear the sounds coming from my kit, but record the SD3 sounds) but I do slightly hear that crackle sound when I have Record Monitoring On. Will that crackle sound show up in my recording or is that just something that I’ll hear as I’m playing it?
Thank you again! You have already helped a ton and made my life a lot easier!
Reply To: Recording Drums Directly From SD3 Into Reaper version: 3.2.7
Operating system: Windows 10
Is there any reason you’re not using the drivers for your audio interface? You should always use those if at all possible. It’s also possible that the buffers are too low and your computer is struggling. Are your samples on an ssd (preferably separate from your system drive)? Do you have SD3 set to cache samples when in Reaper? How much ram do you have?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
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drumjack52BEST ANSWER
First of all, you have to make sure that the Reaper track which contains your Superior Drummer 3 plugin is set to record MIDI and not audio. Then, make sure that you are recording from the appropriate MIDI port (In Reaper you can select multiple MIDI ports as active in your “Preferences” window, so you must plug in your e-drum kit to a specific MIDI port and select that one for the track you are planning to use). Within the track, next to the record enable button, you can choose if you’d like to hear sound from SD3 or not while recording (it’s an icon for a speaker: set it to “on” or “auto” if you’d like to hear SD3 while recording, or to “Off” if you would like to hear just your e-drum kit). After that, if your e-drum kit MIDI notes are set properly to match SD3’s, when you play back the MIDI in your track, you’ll hear SD3 playing back your beat/groove.
Reply To: Recording Drums Directly From SD3 Into Reaper version: 3.3.0
Operating system: Windows 10First of all, you have to make sure that the Reaper track which contains your Superior Drummer 3 plugin is set to record MIDI and not audio. Then, make sure that you are recording from the appropriate MIDI port (In Reaper you can select multiple MIDI ports as active in your “Preferences” window, so you must plug in your e-drum kit to a specific MIDI port and select that one for the track you are planning to use). Within the track, next to the record enable button, you can choose if you’d like to hear sound from SD3 or not while recording (it’s an icon for a speaker: set it to “on” or “auto” if you’d like to hear SD3 while recording, or to “Off” if you would like to hear just your e-drum kit). After that, if your e-drum kit MIDI notes are set properly to match SD3’s, when you play back the MIDI in your track, you’ll hear SD3 playing back your beat/groove.
Reply To: Recording Drums Directly From SD3 Into Reaper version: 3.3.0
Operating system: Windows 10
Don’t know the exact terminology that Reaper uses but you may be confusing MIDI port with MIDI channel. MIDI port is the connection between the e-kit and computer. There are 16 channels per MIDI stream/connection. So you want Reaper to not only look at what physical port (probably a USB connection these days) the e-kit is connected to but what MIDI channel so that both e-kit and the track SD3 is getting it’s MIDI from are the same channel (1 of 16).
As an aside make sure that the USB ports on the computer are set to never turn off aka go into power saving mode. By default Windows will turn them off (even on a desktop) after a certain amount of time.
Don’t forget there’s going to be a good bit of latency between when pads are hit and sound is made so keeping time while listening to the sounds can be a little difficult unless the amount of buffers used in Reaper or any recording s/w is lowered to as low as it can go and the computer doesn’t choke.
Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
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