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Mark King wrote:

Does the motu have direct monitoring? Does it come with its own mixer? (Like RME or focusrite) if it does then you don’t need a splitter. Most audio interfaces allow monitoring before it goes through the DAW.

It’s confusing – the product page says the M2 has direct hardware monitoring but nothing is mentioned about CueMix which is the s/w that MOTU uses for some of their other interfaces that provides for I/O routing and direct h/w monitoring.

BTW – is there supposed to be some kind of graphic in post 2929082? I get a warning from Firefox that because of embedding Toontrack won’t allow whatever it is to show because of some security issue.

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• This post was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by drumjack52.

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entner.chris wrote:

I’m using a Motu M2. I’ve installed the drivers for it, so I don’t know if it just isn’t showing up in the menu for some reason. It is an NVME drive, also.

MOTU stuff is good although their Windows support has in the past been a little sketchy. When you say it doesn’t show up in the menu are you talking about something in Reaper? Make sure that Windows isn’t trying to use the interface for it’s own sounds. Windows is notorious for not allowing sharing of an audio interface between system sounds and an audio program like a daw. If Windows IS using it that would be why Reaper might not see it. It’s a case of whatever sees the interface that grabs the use of it.

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entner.chris wrote:

I guess I started using ASIO4ALL when I tried using SD3 standalone, because I was getting a lot of latency using my audio interface’s drivers. I do have an audio interface, by the way! 🙂 Everything is on an SSD, but it’s on the same SSD. I did create a separate partition from my windows partition, however. I do have the “Cached” setting turned on in SD3 within Reaper. And I have 32 gigs of RAM. Is there a way to make sure SD3 is using as much of that as it needs?

I’m on a desktop, not a laptop. My CPU is an Intel i7-8700K, so I would think that would be good enough. But on the note of not using ASIO4ALL, I’m currently messing around with the other options in this window (see attached image). Which one of these systems would be the best one to use? And could you also help me with the settings that I should try once I select the best one?

Thank you again!…and again!!!

Reply To: Recording Drums Directly From SD3 Into Reaper version: 3.2.7
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None of those options are good – use the drivers for your audio interface. What is the exact interface that you’re using? Anything other than the specific drivers for it are going to give you issues. As far as the samples on the same ssd – if it’s an NVME type drive that would be okay. Anything else might be an issue. I have a separate ssd that just has my system on it, another just for samples and one for session.

Partitions on an  ssd are not necessary. As a matter of fact they can lead to issues. Separate drives for things are good when it come to making backups of your system. That way when (not if but when) a drive fails you only temporarily lose that one drive. Run off the backup until the bad drive gets replaced.

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entner.chris wrote:

Thank you both for your quick and detailed responses! So my audio interface was disabled in the MIDI Devices menu in Preferences, so you helped me find and fix that. And then after switching the input to MIDI on the track (which I don’t know how I didn’t think to do that) everything is working exactly how I would like it to be working!

One last question. I am using ASIO4ALL and I have the buffer size as low as possible, so the latency is pretty minimal (but that shouldn’t be a concern because I do plan to only hear the sounds coming from my kit, but record the SD3 sounds) but I do slightly hear that crackle sound when I have Record Monitoring On. Will that crackle sound show up in my recording or is that just something that I’ll hear as I’m playing it?

Thank you again! You have already helped a ton and made my life a lot easier!

Reply To: Recording Drums Directly From SD3 Into Reaper version: 3.2.7
Operating system: Windows 10

Is there any reason you’re not using the drivers for your audio interface? You should always use those if at all possible. It’s also possible that the buffers are too low and your computer is struggling. Are your samples on an ssd (preferably separate from your system drive)? Do you have SD3 set to cache samples when in Reaper? How much ram do you have?

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José Sanguino wrote:

BEST ANSWER

First of all, you have to make sure that the Reaper track which contains your Superior Drummer 3 plugin is set to record MIDI and not audio. Then, make sure that you are recording from the appropriate MIDI port (In Reaper you can select multiple MIDI ports as active in your “Preferences” window, so you must plug in your e-drum kit to a specific MIDI port and select that one for the track you are planning to use). Within the track, next to the record enable button, you can choose if you’d like to hear sound from SD3 or not while recording (it’s an icon for a speaker: set it to “on” or “auto” if you’d like to hear SD3 while recording, or to “Off” if you would like to hear just your e-drum kit). After that, if your e-drum kit MIDI notes are set properly to match SD3’s, when you play back the MIDI in your track, you’ll hear SD3 playing back your beat/groove.

Reply To: Recording Drums Directly From SD3 Into Reaper version: 3.3.0
Operating system: Windows 10

First of all, you have to make sure that the Reaper track which contains your Superior Drummer 3 plugin is set to record MIDI and not audio. Then, make sure that you are recording from the appropriate MIDI port (In Reaper you can select multiple MIDI ports as active in your “Preferences” window, so you must plug in your e-drum kit to a specific MIDI port and select that one for the track you are planning to use). Within the track, next to the record enable button, you can choose if you’d like to hear sound from SD3 or not while recording (it’s an icon for a speaker: set it to “on” or “auto” if you’d like to hear SD3 while recording, or to “Off” if you would like to hear just your e-drum kit). After that, if your e-drum kit MIDI notes are set properly to match SD3’s, when you play back the MIDI in your track, you’ll hear SD3 playing back your beat/groove.

Reply To: Recording Drums Directly From SD3 Into Reaper version: 3.3.0
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Don’t know the exact terminology that Reaper uses but you may be confusing MIDI port with MIDI channel. MIDI port is the connection between the e-kit and computer. There are 16 channels per MIDI stream/connection. So you want Reaper to not only look at what physical port (probably a USB connection these days) the e-kit is connected to but what MIDI channel so that both e-kit and the track SD3 is getting it’s MIDI from are the same channel (1 of 16).

As an aside make sure that the USB ports on the computer are set to never turn off aka go into power saving mode. By default Windows will turn them off (even on a desktop) after a certain amount of time.

Don’t forget there’s going to be a good bit of latency between when pads are hit and sound is made so keeping time while listening to the sounds can be a little difficult unless the amount of buffers used in Reaper or any recording s/w is lowered to as low as it can go and the computer doesn’t choke.

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Has there been any movement on this renaming deal?

And along with that – how about being able to move mixer channels so like all the toms are together so when you add a tom you can not only rename it but move it to show it’s relation to the other toms?

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John wrote:

olliepudge wrote:

Under the E-Drums tab in EZD3, you can select each drum, hit the learn button and it’s done.  You can do this for the rim, rimshots, and center hits.  Even the cymbal mutes can be learned.  Just thought it was pretty slick. I’m hoping someone from Toontrack will respond to this eventually.  Thanks for your input guys.

Hi,
it’s different in SD3, in the latest update as well. For me, the SD3 way is preferable but that’s me. I think it’s more compact and tidy in SD3; I select an instrument in the list, see what articulations are available (if any aren’t loaded), select what trigger I want to Learn, then click ‘Learn’ and select the next articulation, click Learn, hit Trigger, etc. I do not have to see the ‘Strike a note on your e-kit to assign…’ dialogue for every note.

Anyways, the 2 products are aimed at different type of users and have different workflows. If SD3 users want the EZ workflows implemented, ,who knows?
Feel free to post a Request in the Requests & Feedback section, it is monitored.
Info about what is coming/in development is never communicated via the Forum, however.

BR,
John

Thank you John for posting this. I like the way the mapping works in SD3. Simple and succinct. I don’t have EZ3 so can’t comment on that. Certainly a lot easier than in the drum program I was using before.

Reply To: EZ Drummer 3 E-Drum (MIDI mapping/learn) for SD3 version: 3.3.0
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In your workflow that only changes the mapping for a specific kitpiece in that specific kit. And THAT messes up the mapping for the grooves that one might use that are part of the program. The workflow I’m using and the manual recommends is for when there isn’t a mapping for a controller a person has and THAT works across all kits and doesn’t mess up the MIDI assignments for built-in grooves. If the mapping is for a specific controller it should be done in the MIDI/e-drums page.

Reply To: EZ Drummer 3 E-Drum (MIDI mapping/learn) for SD3 version: 3.3.0
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Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

I think you’re referring to the midi mapping on the Drums tab. That’s different than the Midi/e-Drum Settings to which the OP is referring to. And no one mentioned remapping.

jord

• This post was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

I am referring to the MIDI/e-drums part of SD3. That’s all I ever been talking about. Go to the 4th post down on this page (the second one of mine) and you’ll see that I am referring to the MIDI/e-drums page.

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Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

I see where the OP is going with this.

EZD3 methodology differs in that you select the kit piece first and then assign the MIDI, where SD3 is the opposite, starting with the MIDI.

Aside from TT weighing in as to its possibility, seeing as the mapping is more extensive in SD3, I probably wouldn’t expect such a change until SD4 as it is a significant change.

jord

I beg to differ. In SD3 you pick the kit piece first and then do the MIDI. Actually I’ve been told by support that there is no MIDI remapping in EZD3 (nor was there in it’s predecessor).

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olliepudge wrote:

drumjack52 wrote:

MIDI learn already exists in SD3. It’s part of the MIDI in/Edrums page.

Reply To: EZ Drummer 3 E-Drum (MIDI mapping/learn) for SD3 version: 3.3.0
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Thanks Jack.  I know it does, but they made it really simple in EZD3 under the E-Drums tab.  Hoping they can add the same setup to SD3.

I don’t know about EZD3 but the one in SD3 is dead simple. Go to the MIDI-in/E drums page, click on the kit piece you want to learn and press the ‘learn’ button in the mapping tab. Then hit the pad on your e-kit. Done.  I’ve had SD3 for less than a week and it took me almost no time to figure it out. Then again I’ve read the manual.

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What was the function of your F: drive – for samples only or what? Generally programs would not put user generated data (like MIDI) on that drive unless the user specifically said to put it there. Was the MIDI your own stuff or the blocks that come with SD3?

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MIDI learn already exists in SD3. It’s part of the MIDI in/Edrums page.

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Does Cakewalk even support VST 3?

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Still not happening in 3.3.0 which just dropped.

Reply To: moving track positions in the mixer version: 3.3.0
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