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[drumjack52]

Mark King wrote:

The title even says can’t find xdrums. Maybe it should read why gas xdrums been replaced with an inferior add instrument as it causes confusion. I too liked being able to position xdrums where I wanted them.

He can’t find xdrums because they no longer exist. Like I said if he had bothered to read the manual he’d have known that.

Reply To: Can’t Find X-Drums version: 3.3.1
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

MouseClickDrummer wrote:

This upgrade has not been a good experience.  I have no use for superior 3. I’m literally installing superior 2 on the new rig. It’s much much better in many ways aside from the improved plugins.

There has not been any heart and soul put into this grid editor at all and for me is not usable. It’s not even close.

Another suggestion for improvement aside from a color coded lines wit strikes as the color per line, as well as a better shaded and multi level contrast outline grid for the beats, and putting in two or three permanent rows for the hi-hat so at least one row of closed with drop down, one row of medium and/or open is always present as well.   But this editor needs whey better integration with the midi tracks and clips of the host.

But aside from that, removing those x-drum is a major letdown. Especially when a person wants an intelligently layed out pads for the electronic drums in the correct physical locations which serve as a reminder for the keyboard in a natural way.

In addition, why is the midi learn function so obscure hidden in a tiny menu and drop down.

Buddy, this is not a good situation! Lol

I find the MIDI learn quite easy to use. And I’ve used a bunch of different plugins that all have different MIDI learn systems. You have to learn how to adapt to change – if this 70 y/o can then a relative youngun should be able to.

Reply To: Can’t Find X-Drums version: 3.3.1
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

MouseClickDrummer wrote:

I didn’t mean it in a sexist way, I meant it in a way where it seems like people who don’t enjoy what they are doing in the career role have contributed to certain crucial ‘department’s of this release which is to me in its entirety is not as useful to me as is superior 2.

And you didnt read what i wrote.  There is no X-drums. It got changed to Add instrument and there is just a box at the left with the drum. it doesnt allow you to drag the pad like it was a proper X-Drum hex pad before to make it Intelligibly Layed out.

The midi layout of the keyboard is now vertical not horizontal. Why change it? why not just add the option to make it vertical as opposed to altering it completely.

But the biggest mistake here is the X-drum layout being gone.

• The post has been modified 3 years, 4 months ago by MouseClickDrummer"> 2 times, last modified 3 years, 4 months ago by MouseClickDrummer.

I DID read what you wrote and responded accordingly. The way you wrote your question made it seem like you didn’t read the manual. You never acknowledged in your original post that ‘add instrument’ replaced x-drums. You could have saved yourself a lot of aggravation if you had downloaded the manual BEFORE purchasing SD3. I did.

And you still haven’t explained where you are seeing a piano keyboard.

Maybe you didn’t mean your post to come across as sexist but that’s the way it reads.

Reply To: Can’t Find X-Drums version: 3.3.1
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

If you read the manual for SD3 you’ll find out that what used to be called X-drums is now ‘Add Instrument’. Check page 33 or thereabout for how to add an instrument.

Where are you seeing piano keys in SD3? The MIDI mapping perhaps? If that’s it then vertical takes up much less space than a horizontal layout. If that’s not it please explain where you are seeing them.

While male I do NOT appreciate the sexist comments about hiring a woman to make decisions. That kind of language has no place here. You may want to try reading the documentation before going off on a rant.

Reply To: Can’t Find X-Drums version: 3.3.1
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

• This post was modified 3 years, 4 months ago by drumjack52.

[drumjack52]

Brad wrote:

Just thought I would step in to this good natured exchange of thoughts and ideologies…. @sleshnyc. What happens when you load the preset;

Superior Drummer 3 > Andreas Estensen – Experimental Electronic > Buried?

Does it load up OK or do you get an error?

BTW Jack good to see you knocking heads around here (you  know me as bradch00 from DUC)

Reply To: My electronic and percussion kits aren’t loading version: 3.3.1
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)

Loads okay for me.

And good to see you here as well Brad. I do know that screen name quite well. I’m moving up from BFD 3; am loving what SD3 can do. The drumjack52 screen name I use here is a holdover from when I was one of the original members of Drumeo.

Reply To: My electronic and percussion kits aren’t loading version: 3.3.1
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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[drumjack52]

sleshnyc wrote:

No offense. But making me type in a path is like from 1987. I don’t know how to express the path to my screenshot and what it’s size is etc. I mean cmon. This shouldn’t be this hard guys. Yes I did what the other response said but those libraries aren’t there that’s why I want to send you a screenshot   Is there really no where I can email it?

How to express as you say it the path to your screenshot is easy. Make the screen shot and save it to your desktop. Then in Finder find the path, copy it and then paste it in the box in the window. Or do a ‘get info’ on the screenshot and the path is in the ‘general’ section of the info window with the line titled “Where’. You don’t need to put in a size. Just the path and the title to the screenshot. It’s not the easiest thing but not the most difficult thing either; really pays to know one’s way around the operating system (in this case OSX).

There’s no way to email it.

There’s plenty of people who put screenshots in their posts so it’s not impossible – just takes a little bit of work and patience.

Reply To: My electronic and percussion kits aren’t loading version: 3.3.1
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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[drumjack52]

sleshnyc wrote:

i would insert a screen grab to show you, but i have no idea how. when i click on insert image i get a weird pop up box. can i emai someone? i still have no electronic sounds or percussion.

What do you mean by ‘weird popup box’? In the ‘source’ slot in the popup box you put in the path to the images on your computer and then follow through with the rest of the procedure. Did you do what Olof said to do?

Reply To: My electronic and percussion kits aren’t loading version: 3.3.1
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Simple way would be to delete the existing SD3 instance on the target track and then option-drag the SD3 instance with the edited grooves to the track that has/had the second SD3 replacing the existing instance. Things become a  bit more complicated if the kits are different in each. I’d make a kit preset (if you haven’t already) of the kit that’s in the second SD3 track then do the dance I describe in my first sentence and then recall the kit preset.

You must have a screaming system to be able to run two SD3 instances (lots of ram or streaming from a fast SSD) at one time.

Reply To: Copy midi from one Superior Drummer instantiation to another in the same session version: 3.3.1
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

If there is I’ve not found it. A mouse only has one velocity to it unlike a drum pad so you only get one level. The only thing I’ve found that changes IS the mixer channels or the output slider.

Reply To: lowering volume of the sound when you click an instrument version: 3.3.1
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

sleshnyc wrote:

Hi there. The built in ones

Should be there as they’re part of the core library. Is SD3 pointed to the location of the core library?

Reply To: My electronic and percussion kits aren’t loading version: 3.3.0
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

John wrote:

Hi, Jack’s advice is good I just want to add another way of doing it, namely using Instrument Tracks instead of Aux Tracks.
This way you can, if you wish to, separate the MIDI for different instruments onto different Tracks as well, all pointing to the SD3 plug-in.

I had made a quick Template for this earlier, just checked it and it seems set up correct. It’s attached to this post.

I had routed the 2 buses to separate outputs in the Pro tools mixer as well, this practice is good if you wish to route Sends/Busses from the SD3 mixer to the PT mixer. Scenarios can be if you wish to Send to a Reverb in your PT mixer for the Snare but you do not want the reverb applied to your entire Snare channel (e.g. Snare Top+SnareBottom both routed to 3/4) but only the Snare Top. Or simply that you wish to have the Bus return separately treated in the PT mixer.

I do recommend following Jack’s advice to read up on creating Track Templates, they can be a real time-saver.

BR,
John

The reason I do what I do is that PT sometimes has the nasty habit of forgetting it’s MIDI assignments. Spreading that over possibly a dozen or more MIDI tracks can be a nightmare trying to sort out. It’s not a bad idea to do what John says – you just have to be aware of possible issues. What he doesn’t talk about is using the split notes feature to split the notes to different tracks. It’s actually split by pitch to separate tracks. It can be real helpful when dealing with a drum deal that has four rack toms. Most SDX’s don’t have 4 rack toms as part of their usual setup. Combine that with SD3’s GM mapping (if that’s what you use) has the rack toms mapped wrong – the high rack tom is supposed to be mapped to D2 which by default is mapped to something else in SD3.

BTW – the proper term in PT is track preset and not template for what I’m talking about. Full disclosure – been using PT since PT 10. My screen name over on the DUC is musicman691. It’s a very helpful community as long as you give them enough to work with. Like I say there’s no such thing as TMI (too much info) that you can give there when asking for help. Or any forum for that matter.

Reply To: Mapping Superior Drummer 3 to Pro Tools 2021 version: 3.3.0
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Ron Robson wrote:

Seeking advice on setting up SD3 to Pro Tools Ultimately,...

Seeking advice on setting up SD3 to Pro Tools

Ultimately, what I would like to do is create a template on Pro Tools recording from my Alesis Strike Pro SE drum kit via SD3, so I can bounce the tracks to create a new session. Any advice, direction, video links, etc, would be greatly appreciated.

 

Reply To: Mapping Superior Drummer 3 to Pro Tools 2021 version: 3.1.3
Operating system: Windows 10

Seeking advice on setting up SD3 to Pro Tools

Ultimately, what I would like to do is create a template on Pro Tools recording from my Alesis Strike Pro SE drum kit via SD3, so I can bounce the tracks to create a new session. Any advice, direction, video links, etc, would be greatly appreciated.

 

Reply To: Mapping Superior Drummer 3 to Pro Tools 2021 version: 3.1.3
Operating system: Windows 10

Are you using the Alesis to trigger sounds in SD3 which is in PT? If so you need to connect a MIDI cable from the Alesis to your computer and then setup things on the computer side so it sees the Alesis. You probably have this done already but I’m making n o assumptions on what you’ve done (or not done) already. Another obvious step is to insert SD3 on a PT instrument track – that way it’ll receive the MIDI from the Alesis as well as host SD3. Don’t forget to select the MIDI preset for your Alesis in SD3.

I’ll outline what I do with SD3 and that is to treat it as I would a regular acoustic kit. In the SD3 mixer select ‘apply multichannel outputs’ and a number of audio outputs will be constructed in SD3 with the outputs of each kit piece routed to an appropriate mixer output channel. Then in PT create the same number of aux channels that exist in SD3. In each input field select the audio output from SD3 you want routed to that track. Note that the audio output 1/2 from SD3 gets auto-routed to the instrument track hosting SD3. The reason I create aux tracks to receive the audio from SD3 is so I don’t have to mess with record enable to hear the audio if I use audio tracks instead. In the creation of all this I also route the output of each aux track receiving SD3 audio to an audio track. Until I’m ready to render all the tracks I route every aux track and every audio track to a sub-bus aux track I name Drum Bus 1. I have a send off that track to a track that holds the reverb for the drums. The outputs of both Drum Bus 1 and the Drum ‘verb track’ get routed to another aux bus I name Drum Bus 2. I then save all this as a track preset in PT ( I suggest reading up on that in the PT manual or ask over on the DUC – Avid PT forum). That way when I need drums I just create a new track using PT’s ‘new track’ menu item, drill down to the preset I want and hit Return. Voila and if it’s all set up right you’ll have a whole bunch of tracks ready to do drum duty.

Attached are 2 screenshots to help out

Reply To: Mapping Superior Drummer 3 to Pro Tools 2021 version: 3.3.0
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Mark King wrote:

There are actually very few posts on the sd3 forum. Most are about not understanding it and not bugs. Others are computer related where most problems could be avoided. I go on other forums like Cubase and rme and there a whole lot more posts there than on here.

There is a pre sales part you can access and ask questions on all the product forums. I prefer this way of doing it so the forums don’t get clogged up with loads of questions to wade through.

• This post was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by Mark King.

Yes there is a presales part that anyone can read but you don’t tend to see the technical stuff people would like to know about before buying. Part of what’s being talked about here is that you can’t even read about the technical stuff unless you own the specific product you want to look at. Shouldn’t have to be that way. There’s no logical reason for it. Again I’m talking about read, not post to a forum.

Reply To: Really? you need to be registered for a specific product… version: 3.3.0
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

[drumjack52]

Mac McCormick wrote:

I could see if they didn’t allow people who had not purchased the product to write in their forum. But to prevent them from reading it? I don’t get it.

Reply To: Really? you need to be registered for a specific product… version: 3.2.8
Operating system: Windows 10

Same here. I often cruise forums to see what’s up with software I’m interested in. Even just reading things sometimes answers my questions.

Reply To: Really? you need to be registered for a specific product… version: 3.3.0
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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[drumjack52]

Wow – talk about ridiculous. When I was casting about for a replacement for BFD 3 I looked into Toontrack and it’s drum wares. Having to own either of those programs before I could ask a question about it seemed bizarre. And now to find out that even though I own SD3 I can’t ask about EZD3 in it’s own forum?

I understand about having to setup an account to be able to read or post to a product’s forum in some cases because of Spam issues but this?

Reply To: Really? you need to be registered for a specific product… version: 3.3.0
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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