drumjack52
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drumjack52First thing I usually tell people to do when they are having supposed MIDI problems is to get the free utility snoize. You run it in standalone mode and it will tell you what is being sent from any device connected via MIDI. If everything is as you think it should be that would tend to rule out the drum brain.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52The cymbals all work here
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52There are several kits in the stock library that have the word ‘tape’ in them. Which one? Any reason you’re not on the latest revision of SD3?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Thank you for that, and for all the other input.
of course, the disk works with other stuff as the OS is located on it – didnˋt think of that.I will look into what other processes might happen as I load.
In the meantime, a new 4TB M.2 and an additional 32Gb of RAM is headed my way. So hereafter all plugin libraries will be stored there.Reply To: SD3 very slow loading. version: 3.4.0
Operating system: Windows 11
The big thing to look for is do you have an anti-virus program running/scanning your files? If so check into whether you can have SD3 and your daw whitelisted so it doesn’t get scanned.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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Thanked by: Brad and Frode Hansendrumjack52When you do a drag and drop like you say does Windows leave the file in it’s original place as well as placing the file in it’s new place so you have 2 identical files in 2 different places? I know MacOS does that unless you use a key modifier.
When you drag and drop a folder in the Explorer from one location to another it will be Moved if it is on the same drive, copied if it is between different drives.
Modifier keys are: Ctrl for copying instead of moving; and Shift for moving instead of copying.Changing path to a library can be done in the PM via the Installation Info tab or setting the path in SD3 via Settings>Libraries/Paths.
BR,
John
Thanks. So Windows is just like MacOS in that regard. I don’t do all that much in WinLand anymore.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Taking minutes to load is not normal. Something is stealing loading time. Do you have any disk tools or virus checkers running?
As for reloading your libraries, this is as easy as dragging them to the new disk and pointing Superior Drummer to the new locations. The production manager will know where they are in order to update them.
jord
- This post was modified 4 months, 1 week ago by Bear-Faced Cow.
When you do a drag and drop like you say does Windows leave the file in it’s original place as well as placing the file in it’s new place so you have 2 identical files in 2 different places? I know MacOS does that unless you use a key modifier. Been a ton of years since I ran a Windows system that deeply.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Frode: You say that the computer was freshly booted and the drive was not in use by something else. Actually it was because the operating systemw as also using the drive. One question you haven’t answered is – is anything else running on your machine? What other processes? What exactly does it mean when you say the power options are set to ‘performance’? There are many settings possible as shown here: https://www.nextofwindows.com/performance-settings-windows-11
There are 2 things one can never have too much of: money and ram.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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Thanked by: Frode Hansendrumjack52I just realised the default kit mentioned is 25Gig in size. That is huge. I wonder if the problem lies there. What if you pull up a preset. Does that load fast? My kits are about 4 to 8Gig and load in less than 10 seconds. Going on that then a 25Gig kit should load in about 30 seconds.
I use contact libraries (not drums) but they don’t tend to be as large as sd3. When I moved from ssd to m.2 there was a big difference in load times.
- This post was modified 4 months, 1 week ago by Mark King.
I’m seeing roughly 20 to 25 secs loading time for an Area 33 kit that I use that’s like 24 gig – both standalone and in ProTools – but that shouldn’t matter. And this is off of a bog standard SSD mounted on the motherboard of my 2012 MacPro desktop. 48 gig of ram so there’s plenty of room for everything else. I still think ram might well be an issue (actually the lack of plenty of ram space).
Like I asked earlier – what else is running on the computer?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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Thanked by: Frode Hansendrumjack52Frode: Do you have SD3 set to ssd for disk type? As Mark said it’d be good to move all SD3 content (except for the program itself) off of the system drive. Never a good idea to have sample content on the system drive for the reasons Mark stated. Also make sure that you have disabled all power savings measures on your computer – in a typical Windows install they are enabled by default. What else do you have running on your computer? Is there any way you can increase the amount of ram? Having a 24 gig load coming from SD3 doesn’t leave a whole heck of a lot for Windows and whatever else is running.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
1
Thanked by: Frode Hansendrumjack52How you got I was trying to trash you I don’t know. I was just mentioning to Eddie to essentially not waste any more time here arguing with you Jord. If you can’t understand that then I don’t know what to say. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – this is why this forum should have PM (private messaging) system so the thread doesn’t go off the rails.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52How can we when you consider your side fact and my side speculation ignoring the fact that I have a few decades of experience in this, not to mention every fact I already listed? Even worse is you have done to me the very thing you accused ToonTrack of… gaslighting.
It’s not me that has to get a grip on the reality of it here.
jord
Huh? The fact is that it is broken. There is no sides to that, it’s a fact. Your reasons as to why it is broken, or not fixed yet is speculation. We don’t know for sure.
I have not questioned your experience at any point. Please stay on topic and stop making it personal. Let’s get this fixed and move on. It should not be broken.
Take it from one who’s had experience with Jord going back decades – you’re not going to win this argument. It will only get uglier. I’m not defending him – that much is evident – just stating fact.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52No, it was trying to make it sound like it was user error
That’s not gaslighting.
No. You are trying to belittle how much of a problem this bug is, for whatever reason.
Wrong again. I said if they couldn’t fix the bug without causing more serious issues.
At least we all now know why you believe that you’re being gaslit.
jord
So without seeing any of the emails or correspondence, you know what was going on.
I really cannot understand your stance here or why you think software remaining broken for so long is acceptable, but you’re more than entitled to have it. Thankfully very few plugins on my computer have bugs that have been present as long as this, usually they get fixed eventually.
My stance is that it fundamentally inhibits how I am able to use the plugin, and makes it unviable for one of the main uses I have for it (to augment real drums). It’s not practical to convert every session to 44.1kHz just to audition samples, and then convert back to whatever sample rate I need to work at. I’d tolerate that for a while, but expecting users to do it for years is simply below the standards I typically expect of Toontrack, who make otherwise industry leading products. I hope this gets resolved, and I hope others are aware that in its current state it may not function as they expect it to be.
One thing to keep in mind with Jord is he draws money from Toontrack so he would be expected to defend them but it’s that very thing that won’t allow him to admit that maybe the emperor has no clothes or at the very least they are threadbare. This is not the first time he’s said that SD3 is not a sampler in the vein of something like Kontakt; at the same time though it’s a sample player and should be able to do what any other sample player is able to do. That it does a lot of things is one thing but that shouldn’t take away from getting the timing right and locked in. After all isn’t that the stock-in-trade of a drummer whether human or otherwise?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
1
Thanked by: Eddiedrumjack52Does your daw allow you to work in samples and/or ticks? If so (and if it’s changeable) have you tried changing that setting? How do things work out if you try a multiple of 44.1 like 88.2?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52I use this piece of software quite a lot, many...I use this piece of software quite a lot, many hours every day. I use earphones in DAW mainly, and set up everything with correct loudness.. When I play the drums, I NEVER EVER hit 127 in velocity. Selecting drum pads constantly rings 127 velocity directly in to my ear-canal, and I’m beginning to worry about my hearing.
Why is there no option to turn this down? If there is an option, how do I turn it down? Please for the love of everything, let this be possible I beg
Reply To: Fearing for my hearing when selecting drum-pads version: 3.4.0
Operating system: Windows 11I use this piece of software quite a lot, many hours every day. I use earphones in DAW mainly, and set up everything with correct loudness.. When I play the drums, I NEVER EVER hit 127 in velocity. Selecting drum pads constantly rings 127 velocity directly in to my ear-canal, and I’m beginning to worry about my hearing.
Why is there no option to turn this down? If there is an option, how do I turn it down? Please for the love of everything, let this be possible I beg
Reply To: Fearing for my hearing when selecting drum-pads version: 3.4.0
Operating system: Windows 11
When you say you select drum pads are you talking about clicking on a kit piece in the SD3 gui? If so there’s no way to soften things because those hits are all at max velocity so they’re all going to be at the same high level.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Has anyone had the following error message come up and...Has anyone had the following error message come up and does anyone know how to fix it?
I’m in the latest version of Logic Pro X.The plug-in named ‘Superior Dr’ of type ‘0 – 32’ isn’t available on your system
The option to choose multi-output 16Xstereo has disappeared for Superior Drummer 3 and EZdrummer 3 but is still available for EZdrummer 2 somehow. Trying to mix the drums on a new song I’m working on at the moment, so this is really frustrating.
Operating system: macOS Sequoia (15)
- This post was modified 4 months, 3 weeks ago by joneirikboholm.
Has anyone had the following error message come up and does anyone know how to fix it?
I’m in the latest version of Logic Pro X.The plug-in named ‘Superior Dr’ of type ‘0 – 32’ isn’t available on your system
The option to choose multi-output 16Xstereo has disappeared for Superior Drummer 3 and EZdrummer 3 but is still available for EZdrummer 2 somehow. Trying to mix the drums on a new song I’m working on at the moment, so this is really frustrating.
Operating system: macOS Sequoia (15)
- This post was modified 4 months, 3 weeks ago by joneirikboholm.
When you say the multi-out has disappeared – is that in Logic or SD3? And did things work okay before you updated Logic? Did you also update MacOS? Are you running the latest revision of SD3?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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