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[drumjack52]

You can’t flip the phase of each mic separately in the SD3 mixer?

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[drumjack52]

The first thing to do is to watch the drums page in SD3 and see what hits show when you hit the kick and crash at the same time. That will tell you that the DM10 is sending the correct notes. If that doesn’t tell you anything then download the free MIDI utility snoize – run it and it will tell you what’s being sent from the brain. Of course there’s always the usual adjust the pad sensitivity and crosstalk on the DM10.

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[drumjack52]

What exact version of Melodyne are you using? Why go through converting the audio to MIDI when you can just import the MIDI from your drum brain to PT and thence on to SD3?

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Tom Conner wrote:

Re: 16 bit vs 24 bit sample depth – please point me to any recording that gets close to using 96dB of dynamic range. 96dB is a 636 times increase in intensity, since it’s 2X volume every 10dB. 🙂

Symphonic music can easily outrun 96dB of dynamic range. Like I said earlier – why handicap the sound with a lower bit rate? Better to have more range available than you need.

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[drumjack52]

Tom: what you are missing is headroom. You always want to have more than you think you need. You may not hear it but the difference is there.  You never want to get close to the limits of anything. Also keep in mind intersample peaks – slack off on the overhead (oversampling) and you’ll hear distortion. It’s like ram and money – you can never have too much of either. I’d rather be in the middle of things than try and live on the bleeding edge as you’ll get cut by it sooner or later.

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Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

The Apollo and Satellite are fine. Unless they are TB2, all you need is a TB cable. We don’t need to worry about FireWire connections because the no Apple Silicon unit has any.

jord

UAD Apollo 8 is Thunderbolt 2.

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[drumjack52]

Brian wrote:

Mac Mini M4 Pro (2024: 64 GB), OSX 15 (Sequoia), Pro Tools 2025, UAD Apollo 8, UAD-2 Quad Satellite DSP  Accelerator, 2 x Lacie Thunderbolt SSD (250GB), Seagate Backup Plus  Drive (4TB), Samsung T7 (4TB).

How many different adapters are you running those UAD boxes through? Not all Thunderbolt series adapters are compatible with each other as are not all Thunderbolt versions are compatible with each other. And don’t even get me started if any of those are Firewire connections.

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[drumjack52]

What we don’t know in all this is what are the OP’s system specs and is he using the core library or an SDX?

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[drumjack52]

Brian wrote:

I’m already doing this, following your earlier posts. Just seems more complicated than having separate instances. However, the MIDI overdubbing discussed on the Avid DUC  seems like a much better method, I’ll try that.

The way you started out doing your work may seem simple to you but it’s part of what’s causing your problems. Why not do things the way every other person would do it? Once you get the hang of it you should be sailing along just fine. Learn good habits from the beginning and that way you won’t have to unlearn what got you into trouble to begin with. None of us was born knowing this stuff in the womb and learning new stuff can lead you onto the path of success. Trust those of us who have been there/done that.

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[drumjack52]

Found this old thread on the DUC where it talks about MIDI overdubbing which is essentially what the OP should be doing. https://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=43456 Let’s one record on to an existing MIDI track without overwriting the existing MIDI.

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Brian wrote:

Just one thing – using my method of physically tapping the midi keyboard for each individual drum element in separate instances on SD3. I don’t see how this is possible using one instance of SD3 on an instrument track routed to separate aux tracks for each element. It works, obviously, using the MIDI editor, which records all three elements to the instrument track which then routes them out to the auxes. But I prefer to play along with the song, adding each element one by one. This isn’t possible using the latter method as each successive drum recording records over the previous one. Or am I totally missing something?!

I already gave you the answer on how to do it. The instrument track that has SD3 carries one kit piece – say the kick. A separate MIDI track carries the notes for say the snare. In the edit screen of PT enable instrument view and select SD3 in that MIDI track and channel 1. This routes that MIDI to the SD3 instance in the instrument track. Do the same thing for the other tracks you need. This way you’ll have one instance of SD3 being fed 3 MIDI streams. A cleaner way is to select the MIDI from the snare track and merge it with the MIDI that’s on the instrument track that has SD3. Do the same thing with any other kit pieces. You can delete those other MIDI tracks once you have all the MIDI on the one track.

This is all basic Pro Tools methodology. I’d suggest taking a look through the manual for PT and checking out some YouTube videos on PT operations. Or check out the pay-for videos on Groove 3. Another great source for PT help (which is what you really need as you don’t have an SD3 problem) is the DUC https://duc.avid.com/ I wish there was a way I could send you the track preset I use in PT that sets everything up for using SD3.

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Jord: None of the other Arturia synths have a light gui available. Synthmaster has a changeable gui in color only but not a light/dark as the OP seems to be looking for. I would love for the OP to post what other plugins he has that do what he wants for the benefit of us all.

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Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

I’m trying to think what music plug-ins have this capability. None of the major plug-ins I have do this.

jord

ProTools has had the gui color customization for ages. Even before the last few versions from Avid. A bunch of us figured out how to make the changes before it was officially available from Avid. Digital Performer also has the gui color change ability. I think unfiltered audio has that capability. Arturia Pigments can go from a dark to light gui as well. The light one is completely unreadable.

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[drumjack52]

Tom Conner wrote:

Many programs, websites, and apps allow selecting a dark or light GUI now, but not all. A dark background is considered easier on the eyes and better for battery life and energy consumption, but of course it is subjective. Try turning up the brightness on your screen.

• This post was modified 5 months ago by Tom Conner.

And turning down the contrast.

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Brian wrote:

Got you, thanks. Just different ways of working I guess.

Maybe but you’re causing yourself problems doing it your way. More difficult than it has to be.

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