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Steve Leach wrote:

Thanks for replying! I’ve looked at the “app store and identified developers” and that all looks to be correct.

I’m able to download the updates etc, just not install. Just tried again, but no luck unfortunately.

Reply To: SDX/EZX Updates. version: 3.3.5
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

What do you mean by ‘appears to be correct’? What are you actually seeing where I pointed you? Downloading the updates means nothing – it’s being able to install them and that’s where what I mentioned comes into effect. Also as Jordan said check your folder permissions.

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Before you do anything check to see if you’re running in Admin mode. You may have to change to that. If that doesn’t work read below.

Go to the OSX control panel and click on the ‘Security & Privacy’ icon. Check what you have the ‘Allow apps downloaded from:’ radio button set to. Set it for ‘app store and identified developers’ and you should be good to go. If for some reason that doesn’t work Google search for how to set this to ‘anywhere’. For me it requires doing some stuff in Terminal. I’m on OSX 10.13.6 so I don’t know if things have changed in later versions of OSX. Also your computer has the T2 security chip IIRC – there may be something you have to do as regards that.

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Check the velocity curve settings in SD3.

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Unsolo the track with SD3. Depending on how Logic works if you have SD3’s track feeding another track and you solo the SD3 track you may not hear anything downstream from the SD3 track. ProTools has a solo safe selection for each of it’s tracks and I’d have to use that.

Reply To: No sound from superior drummer 3 in logic version: 3.3.5
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Ken Spence wrote:

BlackApps wrote:

I really appreciate the help. It lets me focus my attention on what can actually be done in SD3.

Hi there, personally, I would like SD3 to be able to do the panning based upon the visual representation of where the drum is placed on the picture that you see. However, I do realize that’s a lot of programming.
The biggest challenge that I found was getting the midi signal to be correct i.e. a hard physical hit equals 128 and a soft hit equals 15-20. SD3 did an excellent job at recording these audio differences in their kits, which is why the libraries are so large.
basically load up a kit and without touching anything in ST3, start banging on your pads and adjust the Output of each drum pad. The presets for Roland Alisas and Yamaha are great in setting up the meeting note numbers, but I found that they like in the velocity settings. And that, of course, depends on the hardware, not the software.

Reply To: Recreating my personal kit in SD3 version: 3.3.5
Operating system: Windows 10

Isn’t there a setting that changes the panning from audience to drummer perspective or the other way around?

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BlackApps wrote:

I really appreciate the help. It lets me focus my attention on what can actually be done in SD3.

No problem. Thinking about it I don’t know if there’s a drum vi that can do such a thing like discussed here.

Reply To: Recreating my personal kit in SD3 version: 3.3.5
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Depends on exactly what you’re looking for. You could add extra instruments but they would only show up in the upper left hand corner (and downwards for each extra instrument you add). There’s no way to move those kitpieces towards the middle of the gui arranged around the existing kit. Another way is to find a kit that duplicates the configuration you have in your ekit. You can’t delete pieces that are already there.

An example of the first method: I mainly use the Death & Darkness expansion and need 4 rack toms for what I do. The kits int hat expansion only have 3 rack toms so I add the 4th tom via the ‘add instrument’ way and that tom sits in the upper left part of the main gui. That can’t be moved to where it would fit in the kit.

A more important issue is I don’t know if the MIDI preset in SD3 for your ekit takes into account extra pads & cymbals.

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Stick_d wrote:

It’s a 2015 Mac book. For Vocals recording , I use a Focusrite audio interface that I run it when I need it, In the current case – It is not connected.

 

Yes my drum module act as an interface, I don’t need an additional one. I am using this setup for years, I need to figure what is the change causing this for last 6 months. My USB cable is 10ft long, I have checked the drivers – It is updated with latest one. No, I am not losing the power to Roland. Only the audio interface abruptly disconnects and connecting back in few secs.

-D

A 2015 MacBook has USB 3.1 ports – don’t know if the Roland can deal with that. It also doesn’t have i5 processors. Or do you have a 2015 MacBook Pro (that has the i5 2.9 GHz cpu)? You really should use the Focusrite as your only audio interface. That it worked for years doesn’t mean anything. It may well be as I said that the Roland can’t handle being used as a drum brain AND an audio interface at the same time. There’s no need to stop using the Focusrite because you think you don’t need it. Stick with one audio interface (unless you know what you’re doing) and be done with it. Why complicate things? Swapping interfaces isn’t easy to make work right.

I’ve been at this audio game for a LONG time and it pays to follow the KISS paradigm.

Said it before and I’ll say it again your issue has NOTHING to do with using SD3. Grok that and you’ll be fine.

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Ken Spence wrote:

Wow

now that’s a new one on me. I am still curious about how he would record a vocal.

Reply To: SD3 often disconnects with the audio interface version: 3.3.5

You can’t as there’s no inputs for external audio. The only XLR’s are for monitor outs. I think the audio they talk about is for recording the internal audio of the module.

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Ken Spence wrote:

So the path is this:

the DAW is connected to the internal audio card and then a USB cable to the drum pad controller.
no external hardware used as an audio interface.
if you want to record a vocal, how do you do this?

Reply To: SD3 often disconnects with the audio interface version: 3.3.5

His Roland module can function as both a drum brain and an audio interface according to the Roland website. It’s unclear IF it can function as both at the same time.

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Stick_d wrote:

Jack ,

I use Mac book pro ,  2.9 GHZ i5, 16GB, 2 TB . The connection is direct between Mac and Roland 50X via USB 2.0 USB Type-A male to Type B male cable . No adaptors . The cable runs along the wall and intact, I mean – There is no way it is being disturbed by cat or me, No disruption .  This happens abruptly, The audio device 50X is removed and sometime connects back again. hope the setup is clear now.

-D

From what I can gather you’re on a 2012 MBP. Shouldn’t have had to dig that out. Something that isn’t clear is are you using the Roland as your audio interface as well as for it’s drum brain? Maybe you should get a real audio interface. How long is the USB cable? Are you losing power to the Roland? Did you install the appropriate drivers for the Roland? Are the settings correct on it? It’s not clear but it may not function as both an audio interface and drum trigger for SD3 at the same time. Have you checked on the Roland site if your module and computer are compatible (found that possibility on page 43 of the manual).

Once again your problem is NOT related to SD3.

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Ken Spence wrote:

Read the damn message. “ the audio device is not available “.
it means that either the DAW has lost connection to the device or the device is off and therefore unavailable. The USB connection that is to your drums has nothing to do with this.

The other thing that can affect this is sleep mode. Are the USB ports being put into sleep mode? The DAW that I use, shuts off all of these features on the Windows platform so that this cannot happen. do you have a power supply that feeds your audio device overheating.

Also, the number of USB connections has nothing to do with it. This is probably why I don’t use my Mac because it does not have enough connections. I have 28 devices connected via USB on my Windows machine. I had to actually add a card that would give me more USB devices and it all works fine.

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• This post was modified 2 years, 5 months ago by Ken Spence.

USB ports on a Mac don’t have the same issue your Windoze machine has. Windows by default sets the USB ports to turn off after a while and that is set in the operating system NOT in you daw. This happens even on a desktop and not just laptops. It’s supposed to save battery power but that’s not an issue on a desktop. You have to go into Windows Control Panel and turn off every power saving measure. This isn’t to say that the Mac itself can’t go into sleep mode, Depending on the exact audio interface the OP has if it’s bus powered it could be losing power there. If the OP is going through adapters or adapter cables that could be part of the problem.

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Stick_d wrote:

Thanks for the response. Here is my setup, I have long USB cable that runs from my Roland to Mac, and couple of HDMI cables to two monitors(Displays)..I am sure the connection between Mac and Roland is intact , Are you guys saying is it because of so many connectors ? just wanted to be clear before I debug. Any suggestion to narrow down this issue, Much appreciated.

 

And @drumjack , to you question. This is happening always when the specific setup in use , I mean when I am playing my kit using Logic & SD3.

 

-D

Reply To: SD3 often disconnects with the audio interface version: 3.3.5
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

What exact Mac do you have? What exact cables are you using along with any adapters? Or adapter cables? There may be a loss of connection integrity between the computer and ekit. Your description isn’t clear. In one posting you seem to say that the ekit is connected to the audio interface and in another direct to the computer. Of course this would be the MIDI connection. One way to debug the MIDI connection is to grab the free snoize utility which will help diagnose possible MIDI problems. Install it and fire it up in standalone mode and play your ekit. If everything is going correctly you should see messages on the computer screen of what’s coming through. There’s no way that SD3 is causing your problem. You have other gremlins in your system you need to suss out first.

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Ken Spence wrote:

Hey there

check your cabling and connections to your audio interface. I had a similar thing happening on a Windows platform and the USB cable was not fully seated. Therefore a loose connection would occur.

Reply To: SD3 often disconnects with the audio interface version: 3.3.5

It might not just be loose connections but being the OP is on a Mac there’s probably a bunch of adapters and/or cables involved which could mean compatibility between everything as well.

One thing that worries me is is this just happening when the specific setup is in use or at different times when running Logic and other vi’s/plugins? I would think if communications are being lost to the audio interface that it would happen at other times as well.

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joanimal wrote:

Drumjack52

Thanks for replying this is what i have

Macbook pro with Superior Drummer 3 and 2 additional toontrack expansion packs  I’m using a Yamaha DTX M12 as my midi trigger controller using  a usb to usb b connector I have connection from SD3 to the M12 meaning when i hit the pads on the M12 they are triggering the drums on the SD3 and i get sound coming out of the computer speakers on the M12 I have a 1/4” cord from mono out to the 1/4” input on my RCF Jmix 8  this is where i have an issue the sound should come from the SD3 back to the M12 and send sound to the RCF Jmix  I get nothing coming out of my RCF? I’m loosing my mind and don’t know what I’m doing wrong I cant speak to anyone at toontrack which is even more upsetting.

Thanks for getting back to me I really appreciate your help attached is my info w/cell # I you can call me if you like it would be nice to speak to a real person and not just texting.

Joseph Iannotti

josephiannotti@hotmail.com

631 922 4494

I don’t do real time phone calls so posting here is the only help I can give you.

Ok so you are running SD3 as standalone in your computer right? You need a real audio interface to get audio out of your computer. The audio output on your computer is probably headphone level at best. It doesn’t have the capability to drive your JCF. Your description is very confusing. There are no speakers on the M12 – I know because I have one that I use as a trigger for SD3 running inside my daw which is ProTools 2021.6. The SD3 output is coming from your computer and NOT the DTXM12. Once again – get a real audio interface, connect it to your computer, install any driver software and configure SD3 as you need to – to do that PLEASE read the manual that comes with SD3 as I don’t know how to set it up in standalone mode and audio output. When you get that done connect a stereo (2 channel) line output from the interface and connect to a line input pair on the JCF.

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