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drumjack52i normally use 3 or 4 instances of SD3 in a recording session. works great
If you have the memory
Jack
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Thanked by: patrick maguiredrumjack5232 should be fine but it depends on what you are doing. If you are running a DAW with lots of instruments that load to ram then yes. If it’s sd3 then big kits are only about 4gig but can be as big as you want if you keep adding pieces. I use 32gig which is fine for me but I know people who work with orchestration can have hundreds of tracks so need a lot of memory.
Just like money you can never have too much ram. I regularly use Death & Darkness with the DW kit and load everything into ram which takes over 13 gig. I don’t like to stream things if I can help it. And also regularly bang right into 32 gig so the 48 gig I have installed helps big time.
Gigabit internet on Verizon FIOS is the way I run. Love the fast download speeds. All wired; no wireless anything. Satellite internet is way slower and not dependable. At least I no longer have to deal with 56k dialup.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
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drumjack52You’re going to need not just two instances of SD3 but also two instrument tracks for the MIDI. One for the verse and one for the chorus. As well as either ram to hold both kits or bandwidth of the computer bus to handle the sample streaming.
Jack
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drumjack52Ken:
No one wants to verify what you’re seeing because no one else is trying to do what you’re doing. People either record into SD3 OR their daw but not both at the same time. There’s no reason to do that and I think that’s your issue. Using macros in SD3 is fine and yes it was built for that.
Try this: open SD3 standalone and try recording something simple there. If that works then the s/w is okay. I’m a big fan of stripping things down to the beginning when debugging. It’s something I learned a long time ago (turned 71 in February).
Jack
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drumjack52Hi Jack
Yes, I am a complicated person. I am lazy and I feel that the use of macros to balance my kit on the fly is a luxury that I would like to have.
Now, can someone help me verify that I blew it up. PleaseWith the tracker minimized I use the mouse to toggle record on and off, and it only will do it one time.
When I expand the tracker to see what I have recorded or drug into there, the record function works perfectly every time by mouse or keyboard.
What I am trying to do is have one of you kind folks help me to verify that I broke the software, or is it an issue with SD3. I really do not want to have to download the software again uninstall and then reinstall.
I have never been down that road before. So I do not know if I will lose all my customization of my kits, all of my presets, etc. etc. etc.
Frankly it scares the crap out of me to think I have to start at zero.
Kind regards and thank you.
Cheers, Ken.
The issue has really nothing to do with SD3 when you operate it as people should. You didn’t break the software. To quote Scotty in one of the Star Trek movies: ‘the more they overtake the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the drain’. He was referring to the automation installed on the Excelsior. Again: lose the macro and do all your recording in your daw. There’s no need to actuate recording in SD3. Do all your automation in your daw. You’re trying to make the s/w do things it was never meant to do.
This is one of those cases where being lazy (your words not mine) is getting you into trouble.
Jack
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drumjack52Hey Quark! Making any Latinum? (grin)
It’s a LAN. But yeah, they want booku bucks for an upgrade, and 99.9% of the time, what I have is fine.
Not sure what “blaming toontrack” is about, I’m just happy to get on board with the new alien site 🙂
Who wants big bucks for an upgrade? Upgrade of what? More ram won’t help your download speeds. For that matter what is your actual problem here? Your answers aren’t making any sense.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
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drumjack52I’m a little confused by your question. Are you asking for a recommendation for an audio interface for the laptop or for a desktop computer to replace the laptop? It’s hard to give an answer without knowing what you already have in the way of the computer and what your I/O capabilities are. Are you talking USB, Firewire or what? Also price point enters into the answer as well.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Don’t blame Toontrack for your supposedly poor download speeds. Get with you ISP on this. Are you using a direct wired connection or wireless? 13 hours for a download? Unless you’re on 56K dialup that kind of slow speed isn’t happening.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
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PT 2021.6
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drumjack52Hay Jord
I was looking for away to synchronize Cubase record with SD3 record. Arming
To capture midi in both apps, you have to open the vst, arm the record go back to CuBase and arm the vst track. etc.I Have 5 screens on my computer system and I am running out of space.
Left is for ctrl pnl of interface & misc : Main screen is for CB: right is for metering : Top is for Mix console and or SD3.
Far right is for videos while practicing and is too far from the main workstation.
I have blue-tooth mice keyboards near the drums. (this is because I practice with videos from the web.)Because cubase takes over your keyboard no matter what shortcuts you have…you cannot use the keyboard shortcuts in SD3 until the vst window has focus.
So.. the desired work-flow is to arm necessary tracks with the mouse and press a button to arm SD3 without having to open or switch to the vst window.That is why i was playing with the macros and record button.
Reply To: I broke the record function in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 10
There’s no need to arm SD3 for recording when doing recording in your daw. It’s that simple. You really need to heed what Jord has been saying. No need for 5 screens either. No need to see the control panel for your interface. You may want to investigate Mission Control and desktop Spaces in OSX. YOu have a fondness for over-complicating things.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
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PT 2021.6
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Thanked by: Bear-Faced Cowdrumjack52Hi Jack
I AGREE and that’s the plan always has been since SD2…. Personally I’m not fond of the grid editor in SD3.
The end game for me is to buy a 3rd hardware box to control the midi macros. This way I can sit within a session, fine tune the sound with the macros and then record all the streams (data & audio) in the DAW. There are 16 stereo output channels in SD3. Witch can all be Captured on the fly.
I am running Cubase on my Studio Capture 1610(#2) and SD3 on Focusright 18i20.
OK it has gotten weird.
Sit and wait 10 minutes …. No work. “R” or mouse….with the track window minimized. Expand the track window and it begins to work no problem! ^&%%$$$)(**&^&^&^%^&%$#@#@$$##$$$%%???>>
Reply To: I broke the record function in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 10
- This post was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by Ken Spence.
Reason: Added insights
As I said before – lose the macros as they’re causing nothing but problems. Just do everything inside Cubase without macros. Sometimes trying to make things more ‘convenient’ leads to complications. It’s the old KISS principle.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
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PT 2021.6
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drumjack52Hi Jack
That’s the problem, yes, I realize I can record the midi inside of Cubase, but when you arm the audio track for the vocals, etc. and arm the VST “midi” track, inside of CB11, the SD3”Rec does not arm.” never has. You always had to open the VST; record arm superior drummer, then go back to Cubase and record your session.Using macros from SD3, in Cubase you can adjust those parameters of SD3. Using a midi track.
Eg. by assigning “top” “bottom” and “comp” from the main snare and the xSnare to 1 macro, and inverting the volume parameters on “xSnare” you basically have made a balance control between the volumes of both snares. I also have two more macros that control the amount of reverb of each snare individually.
So naturally, I figured I could arm the record function in SD3.
And I broke it.Reply To: I broke the record function in SD3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 10
If you have a MIDI track in Cubase there’s no need to record anything in SD3. Cubase will hold the MIDI you play on your ekit. Just set the MIDI track in Cubase to trigger SD3 and be done with it. It’s that simple. Lose that macro as you don’t need it. THat’s the way I work in Pro Tools. I let PT handle the MIDI recording.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
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PT 2021.6
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3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52What daw are you using? Why did you create a macro (and where is that macro)? Are you recording anything inside SD3?
If you’re doing everything in your daw you should be able to record arm both tracks and then hit the record button in your daw. 3 clicks and done if all you’re recording is the guitar and drums.
If I were you I’d lose the macro.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
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PT 2021.6
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3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Brad:
Like you said hopefully the op will get some help out of this. I knew there had to be a way to futz with the PM to get done what is needed here.
I learned a long time ago to keep downloads of everything saved off to a safe place so I don’t have to worry if the developer I purchased from is still around and has an archive of old downloads.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
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drumjack52I don’t think that will work in the op’s case. He’s installing on a new machine and he has
I was under the impression he did want to run them from the SSD. I was thinking they were installed there and he just wanted to point SD3 to that location. My mistake.
I have an SSD with all Toontrack samples on it. When I build a new host I just plug it in and start SD3 navigate to the folder where the SDXs are stored, authorize through PM and I’m good to go.
In the case of having all the install source files in one place, go to PM > preferences and point the downloads folder to where they are installed. Although the button says “download” once it sees the file you are trying to install from it will change to Verify and then Install, rather than download. Also something I do all the time having 3 systems using the same download location and sample location.
Anyway, that’s all I got.
Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
Thanks for that as it worked a treat here. Even going from the spinner I mentioned (7200 rpm jobbie in one of my 2012 Mac Pro’s drive bays) to my internal ssd in a card slot it took maybe 10 minutes to get the surround file ‘downloaded’ (from the spinner) and installed on the ssd where I have my samples stored. Don’t know if I’ll do the height surround stuff.
Jack
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PT 2021.6
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drumjack52I don’t want to have to download the libraries for...I don’t want to have to download the libraries for the SDX files again. They are all located within a single folder on a ssd. How do I do this? I did this once before and I had to download and reinstall every library (I own almost all of them) I do not want to have to do this again and I assume there must be a way.
Thanks for any assistance.
Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 11
- This post was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by Frameshifter.
Reason: Added Version and OS informationI don’t want to have to download the libraries for the SDX files again. They are all located within a single folder on a ssd. How do I do this? I did this once before and I had to download and reinstall every library (I own almost all of them) I do not want to have to do this again and I assume there must be a way.
Thanks for any assistance.
Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 11
- This post was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by Frameshifter.
Reason: Added Version and OS informationHi there,
Using Toontrack Product Manager, download and install Superior Drummer 3 (just the application/plug-in). Authorize via Product Manager.
Start SD3, it will complain that there are no sample libraries and give you the option to navigate to the folder on your SSD.
You can either, authorize each SDX as you select them in SD3 or authorize them all in Product Manager.
Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)I don’t think that will work in the op’s case. He’s installing on a new machine and he has the library downloads stored on an ssd. The Product Manager won’t see that ssd and expects to download everything once again and that’s what the op doesn’t want to do. There’s no obvious way to tell the PM to look at the ssd. It’s like I downloaded the surround and height surround files for SD3 and didn’t want to install them at initial install. If I want to install them I have to download those two large files again from the net.
Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)As long as he downloads SD3 (application) and starts it up, SD3 will allow him to navigate to the folder where they reside on the SSD. And your right, I forgot a step… after SD3 finds them, go back to Product Manager > View > Refresh Product List… the “Authorize All Products” popup should display.
Reply To: Installing Superior Drummer 3 to a new machine (How to?) version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
- This post was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by Brad.
You’re still missing what he wants to do. He doesn’t want to run them from the ssd. Even so SD3 won’t know about any SDX’s he has. SD3 only knows about what’s installed through the Product Manager. And as I said the PM won’t see that ssd he wants to install from as it can’t be set to anything other than one’s download folder.
Like I said I have the 2 surround files for SD3 on a spinner where I keep all my installers & downloads. I can’t install those 2 files using the PM because I can’t point the PM to where they are stored.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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