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drumjack52Grab the free MIDI utility called snoize and run it. It will tell you what notes are being sent. See if the note that gets sent for when you play closed HH on your VH14 is the note that SD3 expects to get to play closed HH. The MIDI mapping might not be correct on either end.
Jack
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drumjack52Thank you.
Jack
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drumjack52If you’re referring to the MIDI, it was introduced at the same time EZDrummer 3 was released. The manual may not have been updated to reflect this.
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Thanks and so goes the eternal question for any developer: will we ever get an updated manual? Or at least an addendum with the new/changed stuff explained?
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drumjack52Thank you so much for responding. Yeah, I under stand that sd3 is run as a plugin on a track. Im just having trouble triggering the plug-in
You trigger SD3 just like you would any other virtual instrument. Basic work and you really need to spend time learning these basics. Read the manuals that come with Reaper and watch some YouTube videos on the basics. Until you do that then anything else won’t help you.
Jack
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drumjack52Grabs the free MIDI utility called snoize. That will tell you what exact notes are being sent from your ekit pads. When diagnosing MIDI issues I like to start from bare bones beginning.
Jack
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drumjack52The first thing I would do is to grab the free MIDI-OX utility and run it. It will tell you if your ekit is sending MIDI messages to your computer. Amongst things it will tell you is what note is being played by your ekit. Start with the basics and go from there. And make sure your ekit and track in Reaper are listening on the same MIDI channel.
Jack
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drumjack52Thanks for the explanation. I searched the manual and can’t find anything that describes this.
Jack
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drumjack52Might not be an SD3 problem but could be missing fonts and that would be on MacOS. I have to wonder how compatible SD3 is with Ventura though. This is all barring a hardware issue.
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drumjack52Fr thank you so much – this is super helpful. I figured out a way to install the SDX’s I want without going over my internal storage limit but I definitely still think I’ll need an external hard drive at some point.
The old laptop was a 13-inch 2020 macbook pro with 8gb of RAM and like 250gb of storage, current laptop is the 16-inch 2023 macbook pro with 1TB and 16gb of RAM. I didn’t really think there were many opportunities to upgrade macbooks after buying them so I’ll definitely check out that link.
I’m curious now, since you said latency would be due to the interface, if there are any updates/upgrades to my current setup that I could make to reduce latency even more. The edrums are connected to a td-27 that connects to a presonus 24C through a midi cable and that’s the input I use for SP3. No worries if nothing comes to mind, I appreciate the input so far.
Reply To: Storage Management – Uninstalling MIDI and specific sounds that I don’t use version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
You’d not be upgrading anything internal but adding on stuff outside the computer. And you’re right – Apple’s made it so you can’t upgrade internals by yourself. If you are running SD3 standalone go to the audio/MIDI setup in SD3 and change the number of buffers there. A lower number will give you less latency at the expense of cpu usage and possible audio hiccups. You’ll have to experiment with that.
There’s also another latency people don’t talk about and that’s MIDI latency. There’s nothing you can do about that.
Jack
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Thanked by: Tateb13drumjack52I previously ran everything through an external SSD on my old laptop but I was told that loading the sounds from a separate hard drive was contributing to my latency issues. I have 16gb of RAM on my current laptop vs the previous 8gb so that’s significantly improved latency but I’m curious if you think I’d be able to move the files to an external hard drive without latency issues with the edrum connection. Thanks for helping me out here
Reply To: Storage Management – Uninstalling MIDI and specific sounds that I don’t use version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
With a fast connection for the drive and some form of ssd (think nvme drive) you’ll be in good shape. What you were told on whatever old laptop you had doesn’t apply to the new one. It’s a whole new ball game with the new Macs. What was the old laptop and exactly what new laptop do you have? For a good look at what you can get for your setup take a look at what OWC at http://www.macsales.com/ has. Good people. FYI when you say ‘Mac Pro’ most people think you’re talking about the desktop Mac and not a laptop. The laptops are commonly something like MacBook Pro or close to that.
As to latency that’s mostly due to your audio interface and not so much the loading time from a sample drive.
Jack
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Thanked by: Tateb13drumjack52Why not just get a decent external drive and store your samples there? You probably have a Thunderbolt connection of some type so use that. Deleting presets won’t help you gain all that much space. Same thing for kits. You’d have to delete specific samples as kits just grab whatever samples they need to make up the kit. There’s no easy way to find out exactly what samples you’ll need to delete. The samples are pretty much a monolithic block.
Jack
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Thanked by: Tateb13drumjack52You really don’t want to do what you’re trying especially in Terminal as it’s sketchy at best. You really should do it in your daw. Screw up in Terminal and you could brick your computer. Not worth it.
Jack
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drumjack52Is the Orchestral Percussion SDX considered as an own instance? Could I connect the e-drum kit and a Octapad to the the SDX. Given the price, I tend to think so, but is also labeled an SDX, which I guess means it is just another set of sounds that is to be used in Superior Drummer.
(Sorry for a real newbie question…)
Just because it’s another SDX doesn’t necessarily mean it’s another instance of SD3. If you run in your daw then you could have it on one instance and a second instance of SD3 to host whatever other kit you want. Again – in standalone you can only have one instance of SD3 at a time.
Jack
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drumjack52Thanks for quick response!
Great to hear that it is possible. Not so great to realize that a lot of midi mapping is needed 😵💫
I will use it both as a standalone (most of the time) and in Reason sometimes for recording.
Maybe a stupid question: If I use my e-drum kit, I use all but 4 instruments/”slots” in Superior Drummer. So 4 more pads only? So if I connect the Octapad, I can only use half of the pads? Or is it possible to expand the kits in Superior Drummer? It seems like the Orchestral SDX have a lot more to play at the same time, but that I can just guess from image on Toontrack.com
What are these 4 instrument slots you’re talking about? If you’re talking about ‘add an instrument’ I just tried and I could load in 8 ‘instruments’ of varying percussions, etc. And this is on top of a kit in the Death library that has 2 kicks, 3 rack toms, 2 floor toms and a full complement of cymbals.
Jack
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drumjack52You might be able to achieve the original objective if your e-kit modules support setting the midi channel value. I have successfully done what you are asking by setting one e-kit module to produce midi with channel 10 and the other channel 11. Then in my DAW I created two SD3 tracks with midi channel filters to route the midi notes accordingly based on channel value. You can then setup two independent SD3 kits that should work at the same time, each being driven from a separate e-kit module.
You might be able to do the same with two instances of standalone SD3 as it has a midi channel filter as well, but I’ve not tried to do this.
Reply To: Connect both an e-drum-kit and Roland SPD Octapad to Superior Drummer 3? version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
Can’t do two instances of SD3 in standalone, at least on a Mac. Doesn’t matter that you can set the MIDI channel to one of your choice. So it’s in a daw. Period.
Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.0
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