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drumjack52The answer is simple and right in the manual – do not remap in a specific kit but do the mapping changes in the edrums/MIDI page by changing an existing preset and save that as a new preset. That way every other kit you call up will have the same MIDI mapping.
Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
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drumjack52Chris: Why import the MIDI into SD3? Why don’t you keep the MIDI in Reaper and send it to SD3? IOW treat SD3 like any other vi where you feed the MIDI in your daw to the vi?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
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drumjack52There’s no need to adjust tuning all the time. Most studios only tune the drums once and that’s it. Not for every tune nor when rehearsing. So lose that thought or it will drive you crazy. Somewheres in all this I lost track (ouch) of how you’re routing things out of SD3 when in Cubase. Are you using multi-channel out from SD3 or just one stereo out? In ProTools I use multi-out from SD3. The only thing I use the SD3 mixer for is grouping drums and cymbals ib logical groups like all kick mics to one output from SD3, snare mics to another SD3 out, rack toms to yet another SD3 out, floor toms to another SD3 out, cymbals (that have individual mics) to yet another SD3 out then overheads and ambience mics each to their own SD3 outputs. Essentially I treat SD3’s drums like a real physical drum kit. Then I have individual tracks in PT to accept the audio from the individual SD3 out. I don’t use any of SD3’s effects. The rest of the mixing happens in SD3.
The answer to the question your buddy raises about why your drums sound so much better than his is NOT any kind of physical mixer or how much money you spent. Most of the answer comes from (aside from the quality of sampling) is one word: bleed. No other drum vi that I know of has bleed like SD3 does.
As too your controllers how are they connected? 5 pin MIDI? USB connection? If the latter Windows, even on a desktop, has the USB ports default to turning off after a certain amount of time which no one knows what that is. Certainly overnight would qualify. To turn that off you need to go into Windows Control Panel and turn off any and all power savings. Another thing that will cause issues is if you let your computer sleep. That will make for all kinds of issues when re-awakening. Losing connections to peripherals is one of those. Sleeping a computer is more or less fatal and a no-no for audio work. Best to just shut things down.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Ken: Glad you got it sorted. What will drive us both nuts is what happened to fix it but don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Wish I could help with the controllers business. For my setup I use a MOTU MIDI Timepiece AVUSB that handles all my MIDI work. SD3 sees it and it works a treat.
Now make some killer music!
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52I’ve never seen downloads that slow. There’s nothing that can be done on the Toontrack side as a lot depends on the servers things go through and the internet connection of the end user.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52And Jack no I did not miss any of the that stuff and I really appreciate it cuz it opens more understanding of SD3’s capabilities
PS i will take the 1st ride and change it back to a ride from the core kit witch is where this SD3 project originated from.
- This post was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by Ken Spence.
I’m not saying change the ride but just call up a kit preset that comes with SD3 and see if the cymbals are as loud as you think they should be. Simple. And for a MIDI monitor get MIDI-OX and run it standalone and it should tell you what you’re ekit is sending.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Sorry for my rant. Too many head aches and not enough progress, stolen vehicles etc. yes some ass stole my truck.
So when saving in sd3 the preset is saved with the project name that you choose. “Black & Blue” this case. The preset name is called “test 1”
In my DAW you don’t have the choice to load by project name, it just loads the DEFAULT preset. I had sound until on the cymbals until i loaded the project “Black & Blue”. Then sound gone once i loaded “black & blue” preset is still default.The strange part is that it is ONLY the cymbals. even the extra instrument work they are heardAll of the CC mapping that i did is once again is gone. Probably because i didn’t save it in “Default””preset” witch you cant save anyway. You can save a project called Default and this is is probably where the cc stuf is stored. The MIDI is still recorded the and captured but does not produce sound on the cymbals ONLY.after i load the project Name B&B
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thx for help
Evidently you missed the part where I said that once SD3 is loaded you can change the preset manually. That’s assuming you saved it with a specific name. You also missed the part where I said to start with a stock SD3 preset and see if the cymbals are at a good level. That will tell you that it’s not SD3 itself but your routing.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52You’re going to have to deal with it like the rest of us. It would be neat to be able to move things around the main screen but ain’t going to happen. Actually I don’t know of any drum plugin that does what you want.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Are you talking about moving things in the main gui? If so that can’t be done. Which SD3 library are you talking about? Didn’t know there were Rototoms in the main library. You’re just going to have to re-order things when addling them. As long as things trigger as you need them then who cares what the gui looks like?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52And windows dictation really stupid and sucks. Look at the first frigging sentance
This is like the old Henny Youngman bit: ‘doctor it’s hurts when I do this. Doctor replies: ‘so don’t do that’. My suggestion – don’t use any kind of dictation utility. Go back to typing things in. My other suggestion: type up your response in a text editor like Word or whatever freebie comes with Windows. Set an autosave interval and as always – save early and often. Then do a copy/paste into this forum.
One other suggestion: use a standard kit preset that comes with SD3 and see how the cymbals sound there. That should tell you where the problem is. If you get adequate cymbal level then the problem is whatever routing you’re using and NOT in SD3 itself. There’s a great maxim in troubleshooting: strip things back to a bare minimum/stock config and go from there. This old guy (71) has learned a good bit over the years and this is but one nugget of wisdom.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52That when you click on the drum in SD3 and it sounds loud indicates that the problem is NOT in SD3 but in what your ekit is sending. It could be your kick tower is not sending out a high velocity – the sensitivity setting is only part of the equation. You might not even be hitting the pedal strong enough. Get the free snoize MIDI monitoring utility and run it on your computer and it will tell you what’s coming from your ekit. Look at the velocity numbers. Clicking the drums in the SD3 gui all get a uniform velocity no matter how hard you press keys on your computer keyboard.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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Thanked by: Isha Midoridrumjack52Where are you installing to? System drive (hope not) or what? Do you have enough drive space? Are you running with admin privileges? What is your MacOS security setting for installing things? Any particular reason you’re reinstalling? Do you have write permission for the installation drive? What troubleshooting steps have you taken?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52When you save from the file menu the mixer preset doesn’t get updated/saved. What’s saved is the overall state of SD3 and not component presets although the changes you made do get saved as part of the overall preset. You can have multiple user created overall presets saved from the file menu that you can recall/load at any time.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Hi Marc, that’s the thing they are all pinned, and I can not hear them but the midi data is there. so I cannot hear them while recording or during playback.
When I recorded the audio from the drums, I get all the drums in the waveform, but any of the cymbals are not there in the audio waveform. just a flat line not a bump on it.In standalone mode. I am now loading my favourite project that I saved called black and blue. I am checking all the audio, routing and microphone assignments, such as close, mics, etc. I will save that as black and blue and default.
here’s the thing when you load the VST in your DAW, you don’t get asked what project you would like to load. You just get the default.
Personally, I feel that it should open a select project box when the VST loads. We have to go back into standalone mode, load our favourite project and save that as “default” before opening it as a VST in the DAW.
so…. in the standalone project, I have close mics assigned to all of the cymbals. I will save that as the project and default. Unload everything to the DAW see what happens.
Have you checked your routing in SD3? Maybe try not using multichannel out in SD3 and see if your cymbals are there.
As to being asked what project to load when you open SD3 and all you get is whatever you set as default there is an answer for that. In the top menu bar just to the left of the slot/space that shows the amount of memory being used is a slot that when clicked on allows one to load whatever preset kit that you previously saved. Click on that and go past the first divider line and there should be an entry ‘user presets’. When you click on that you get a list of presets that you created and saved.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Definitely no argument regarding the Fusion Drive, considering the mech part is only 5400rpm.
Everything I can find on it says the HDD portion of the fusion drive is 7200rpm
Still not good. I’d have that drive changed out for a true ssd. That will also give you a quieter environment as well as a cooler running computer.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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