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[drumjack52]

What hiss? I can’t hear any. There is a bit of ringing though.

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[drumjack52]

I actually don’t find it all that much of a problem but then again I don’t have my regular levels up all that high to begin with. Trying to protect my ears and also that I don’t get ear fatigue. That’s why they invented volume controls. There’s no reason to run your levels at max all the time when writing music.

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[drumjack52]

Good that you’re sorted now.

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[drumjack52]

lautarotanok wrote:

My ears are ringing every time I select a part of the kit. Can you please forward my request so they can try to fix this?

4+ years later and nothing has changed. It’s still full volume when clicking on a kit piece because a mouse click is not velocity sensitive and only sends a velocity of 127.

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[drumjack52]

Did you file a bug report with Toontrack? If so you may be able to find it but if it was via email then there’s no way to find it here.

That being said check the velocity of the hits going to SD3. Also the velocity curve in SD3. Where are you doing the mixing – in the SD3 mixer or your daw? If in the mixer check your levels there. If in your daw check there and make sure you’re not over-compressing things. Also check make-up gain on any compression you’re using.

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[drumjack52]

Is this a new problem for you? Did write permissions on any of your drives change? Try this: unselect the first one and select one of the others and see if that sticks. The add another and another after that first trial. I just tried adding a bunch of MIDI devices by way of checkboxes in SD3 (4 more than my usual one) and the selections held after several quits and closes of SD3 in standalone mode. Keep in mind that I’m on a Mac but if it was SD3 I’d think that I’d have the same problem you’re dealing with.

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[drumjack52]

Does the same one always stay connected or does that change? You’re on Windows right? Have you turned off all power savings measures? Even on desktops Windows has a nasty habit of having them on  by default. Tried changing cables? I’ve lost connectivity to devices before without doing anything with cables – a simple plug/unplug usually cured the issue.

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[drumjack52]

Welcome to the major leagues. There’s a few of us here that were with BFD from back in the day. There’s quite the learning curve with SD3 but stick with it – it’s worth the effort. The bleed in SD3 alone is worth the price of admission.

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[drumjack52]

Couldn’t have said it better. Whenever I’m doing something for someone I have them involved with the process even to the point of looking over my shoulder as I mix. That way they can immediately tell me what they want changed (if anything). Since I do most of the recording and all the mixing I can change things as necessary to get the tune where it needs to be.

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[drumjack52]

I’d like to add something further – always provide more tracks than you think is needed at mixing stage. Tracks both with and without any effects whether it be eq, compression, reverb and the worst effect – limiting. That’s why I never use presets or effects in SD3 but record every output from the SD3 multiout to individual tracks in ProTools. I do all my own mixing so I have maximum options. And I never bake effects into a track because that would make it difficult to make effective mix decisions.

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[drumjack52]

Agreed with everything. What I would add is for both creator and mixer to get together at either one’s place and sit down and discuss in front of the daw computer what to do. It would be worth the time/effort/money. Provide the mixer examples/reference songs of the sound being sought. Maybe watch a few videos on mixing. I’m not saying that LeanderL has to learn mixing (although that would not be a bad idea) but pick up a few ideas on how to go about crafting things.

There’s an old axiom in music production: never judge something sound-wise when solo’d but in context.

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[drumjack52]

LeanderL: I’ve spent almost 74 years on this third rock from the sun and I’ve learned a lot that I try and pass on. Not afraid to call someone on something especially when I think they are making things more complicated than they need to be. Yeah – I’m direct and have no bad feelings about that. I’ll tell someone what I think – whether either they like it or not ain’t my problem. Also not afraid to tell someone when I think they are wrong. I guess some people can’t take my being direct.

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[drumjack52]

Korken wrote:

I too understood (assumed, actually) that your mixer didn’t want the bleeds, and because of this you were muting all channels but one and rendered one by one. If your mixer do want the bleeds, then I would say the best method is to use multioutput with a normal render of all at once. I don’t get the issue with that, sorry.

You’re not the only (save for the OP) that doesn’t see the issue with doing normal multiout to individual daw tracks. Nothing to be sorry about. But be aware that the OP doesn’t take kindly to telling him what not to do but instead giving him a method that works.

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[drumjack52]

Korken wrote:

Actually you could disable bleeds on all channels if that is what you truly want.

I think doing this would be 1000000 times more straightforward than muting different pieces and bouncing each channel at a time.

Perfectly said. Why do things the hard way?

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[drumjack52]

Brad wrote:

LeanderL wrote:

Brad wrote:

Hi there,

Trying to understand your work flow .  Why are you bouncing MIDI/instrument to audio one channel at a time? If you do them all at once, it should result in a cohesive set of drum tracks with properly related samples. Yes the round robin multilayered system can’t guarantee the same samples will be used with each output channel printed in isolation, i.e not generated at the same time. Hope I am understanding your question correctly.

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Because I don‘t know how to bounce multiple tracks at once. Always been doing one by one OR mixing inside the DAW preset. But as someone else will mix my songs, I have to export all tracks for him.

Well here’s one way to change your outputs to multi-channel

Then create multiple inputs in your DAW the way you have created it for Outputs 1/2

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He’s been told that many times before. Many times.

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