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‘admin mode’ on a Mac is the root account. If you only have the one account and no others on that Mac you’re in admin mode. Say you created a second account for another person on that computer that person would not automatically have admin privileges. That you get asked for your password from time to time is normal and kind of a safety feature so you you don’t do something stupid. It’s asking for confirmation/authorization and nothing to be worried about.

Being the RME is bus powered I wonder if you have anything else drawing power on your USB2 bus. Are you on a laptop? If so do you just use the battery and only charge when necessary? I’m wondering if the USB port on your computer is being starved for power.

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seasack wrote:

drumjack52 wrote:

seasack wrote:

drumjack52 wrote:

seasack wrote:

Hi! I just upgraded my interface to the RME Babyface...

Hi!

I just upgraded my interface to the RME Babyface Pro FS with the latest FW and Drivers. I hook my Roland TD-27 to it via a Midi cable, the Babyface is connected via USB C to my MacBook 2017 which runs the latest SD 3.

Under the Midi Devices, there is a ticked off check box with no device name next to it. When I check the box, everything is working fine. But when I restart the whole setup, the box is empty again. This is a bit of a nuisance.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

Reply To: Babyface Pro FS as Midi Device – default off (MacOS) version: 3.3.7
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

Hi!

I just upgraded my interface to the RME Babyface Pro FS with the latest FW and Drivers. I hook my Roland TD-27 to it via a Midi cable, the Babyface is connected via USB C to my MacBook 2017 which runs the latest SD 3.

Under the Midi Devices, there is a ticked off check box with no device name next to it. When I check the box, everything is working fine. But when I restart the whole setup, the box is empty again. This is a bit of a nuisance.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

Reply To: Babyface Pro FS as Midi Device – default off (MacOS) version: 3.3.7
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

Where are you setting the ‘MIDI Devices’? In SD3? In the Mac world you initially configure MIDI through the Audio/MIDI Setup utility in MacOS. There’s also MIDI setting in SD3 especially if you’re using SD3 standalone. And make sure that your ekit is powered on before starting the computer. MacOS sometimes doesn’t recognize things when powering on stuff after the computer has started.

I set the MIDI devices in the SD3 standalone settings.

I just looked up the MacOS-MIDI-Settings. The Babyface just shows up as USB-MIDI Interface. Renaming does not change anything in SD3, the entry there is still blank with a blank check box after a restart. And I alway switch the TD-27 on first.

• This post was modified 10 months, 3 weeks ago by seasack.

Thanks for the further explanation. What you should/will see in SD3 is the actual MIDI device which should be the TD27 brain. Do you have the proper device driver for the Babyface installed on your computer?

Thank you.

I have the latest Babyface Pro FS drivers installed on my Macbook. Just to clarify: When I check the empty check box in SD3 everthing works fine – it’s just that I have to check it again after every restart.

Are you running your Mac in admin mode? Do you have write permissions for the system drive (which admin mode would/should give you)? The settings aren’t being saved and that’s one thing to look at. Some time back Apple changed global write permissions. This is NOT an SD3 problem as such but more of a systems issue.

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seasack wrote:

drumjack52 wrote:

seasack wrote:

Hi! I just upgraded my interface to the RME Babyface...

Hi!

I just upgraded my interface to the RME Babyface Pro FS with the latest FW and Drivers. I hook my Roland TD-27 to it via a Midi cable, the Babyface is connected via USB C to my MacBook 2017 which runs the latest SD 3.

Under the Midi Devices, there is a ticked off check box with no device name next to it. When I check the box, everything is working fine. But when I restart the whole setup, the box is empty again. This is a bit of a nuisance.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

Reply To: Babyface Pro FS as Midi Device – default off (MacOS) version: 3.3.7
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

Hi!

I just upgraded my interface to the RME Babyface Pro FS with the latest FW and Drivers. I hook my Roland TD-27 to it via a Midi cable, the Babyface is connected via USB C to my MacBook 2017 which runs the latest SD 3.

Under the Midi Devices, there is a ticked off check box with no device name next to it. When I check the box, everything is working fine. But when I restart the whole setup, the box is empty again. This is a bit of a nuisance.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

Reply To: Babyface Pro FS as Midi Device – default off (MacOS) version: 3.3.7
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

Where are you setting the ‘MIDI Devices’? In SD3? In the Mac world you initially configure MIDI through the Audio/MIDI Setup utility in MacOS. There’s also MIDI setting in SD3 especially if you’re using SD3 standalone. And make sure that your ekit is powered on before starting the computer. MacOS sometimes doesn’t recognize things when powering on stuff after the computer has started.

I set the MIDI devices in the SD3 standalone settings.

I just looked up the MacOS-MIDI-Settings. The Babyface just shows up as USB-MIDI Interface. Renaming does not change anything in SD3, the entry there is still blank with a blank check box after a restart. And I alway switch the TD-27 on first.

• This post was modified 10 months, 3 weeks ago by seasack.

Thanks for the further explanation. What you should/will see in SD3 is the actual MIDI device which should be the TD27 brain. Do you have the proper device driver for the Babyface installed on your computer?

Jack
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seasack wrote:

Hi! I just upgraded my interface to the RME Babyface...

Hi!

I just upgraded my interface to the RME Babyface Pro FS with the latest FW and Drivers. I hook my Roland TD-27 to it via a Midi cable, the Babyface is connected via USB C to my MacBook 2017 which runs the latest SD 3.

Under the Midi Devices, there is a ticked off check box with no device name next to it. When I check the box, everything is working fine. But when I restart the whole setup, the box is empty again. This is a bit of a nuisance.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

Reply To: Babyface Pro FS as Midi Device – default off (MacOS) version: 3.3.7
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

Hi!

I just upgraded my interface to the RME Babyface Pro FS with the latest FW and Drivers. I hook my Roland TD-27 to it via a Midi cable, the Babyface is connected via USB C to my MacBook 2017 which runs the latest SD 3.

Under the Midi Devices, there is a ticked off check box with no device name next to it. When I check the box, everything is working fine. But when I restart the whole setup, the box is empty again. This is a bit of a nuisance.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

Reply To: Babyface Pro FS as Midi Device – default off (MacOS) version: 3.3.7
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

Where are you setting the ‘MIDI Devices’? In SD3? In the Mac world you initially configure MIDI through the Audio/MIDI Setup utility in MacOS. There’s also MIDI setting in SD3 especially if you’re using SD3 standalone. And make sure that your ekit is powered on before starting the computer. MacOS sometimes doesn’t recognize things when powering on stuff after the computer has started.

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When you say ‘saving session’ are you talking about saving a daw session? Or something inside SD3? Some programs just act like you describe – make even the slightest change and it’ll ask if you want to save. If you’re talking about saving a daw session but you’re losing changes you made in SD3? That shouldn’t happen.

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Tom Conner wrote:

Stories and Fields of Rock SDXs have percussion. Probably some more.

Thanks but I think the OP (and I) would like to have a strictly percussion library ala the Orchestral Percussion library.

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I would love to see a percussion library like you’re talking about. There’s at least one from a competitor to Toontrack but I don’t feel right actually mentioning their name. Literally they even included the kitchen sink as a percussion instrument sample.

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tiari wrote:

Thanks, John.

I can’t switch a Rack Tom for a Snare, SD3 offers only toms to select from. However, I can add an instrument so that it shows up on the upper left corner as an additional instrument.

Maybe this is explained in the manual, thanks anyway!

 

You didn’t go far enough. When you right click on the tom you want to switch out cursor up a little to ‘search for instrument’ and click that. When the next window opens deselect ‘toms (instrument type)’. While you’re in that screen go to the third partition towards the top marked ‘instrument’ and then select ‘snare’. You’ll then be presented with a listing of every snare you have in the window partition that occupies the bottom part of the ‘search for instrument’ screen. The graphic on the main kit screen will show a snare in place of the tom you wanted to swap out. You won’t see a snare stand.

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tiari wrote:

Thanks, John.

I can’t switch a Rack Tom for a Snare, SD3 offers only toms to select from. However, I can add an instrument so that it shows up on the upper left corner as an additional instrument.

Maybe this is explained in the manual, thanks anyway!

 

You didn’t go far enough. When you right click on the tom you want to switch out cursor up a little to ‘search for instrument’ and click that. When the next window opens deselect ‘toms (instrument type)’. While you’re in that screen go to the third partition towards the top marked ‘instrument’ and then select ‘snare’. You’ll then be presented with a listing of every snare you have in the window partition that occupies the bottom part of the ‘search for instrument’ screen. The graphic on the main kit screen will show a snare in place of the tom you wanted to swap out. You won’t see a snare stand.

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It exists in the current version. Click on thje top bar of a mixer channel and hover your mouse there and you will see a 4-way set of arrows which will allow you to move the channel horizontally.

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To the OP: Your first mistake was going to Guitar Center. The salesdroids have zero knowledge of most anything whatever they sell especially audio. Did you ask for an interface that has MIDI I/O? If not you should have. And then checked it out in the store before pulling out the cash/plastic. Don’t trust anything one of their salesdroids say.

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machine_74 wrote:

I don’t have a Midi port on my laptop, unless they carry a 5 pin to USB cable.

Also–I realize the idea of the separate audio interface has been brought up multiple times, but that’s the purpose of a discussion. Some have claimed they can get SD3 to work with their kits without one and I’m gathering intel. Thanks.

Your drum brain probably has that 5 pin MIDI to USB cable already somewheres in the box it came in. I’m no fan of using a single connector to send MIDI and audio over the same USB connection. One stream with mixed signal types – recipe for disaster. There’s no realistic way to get SD3 working with an e-kit without using a separate audio interface. Depending on using a built-in audio interface will only get you poor sound and performance results. You spent huge on an e-kit and software so don’t cheap out on the audio end.

Also many audio interfaces also have a MIDI connector/interface built in.

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While Macs have headphone outputs you definitely need an interface. There’s not too many dogs out there. I’d look at Sweetwater’s website and chat up their support. I’ve dealt with them over the years and they’re good. It’s hard to recommend an interface without knowing what price level you’re looking at. You don’t need to spend big bucks. You’re also going to need speakers for playing when your not connected to the PA.  Yamaha makes some decent small monitors and I’d look for something with at least a 5 inch woofer. As to connection to your computer you have a choice of USB, Firewire 800 and Thunderbolt. What connection you use depends on the interface and they’re all good.

Another thing to be aware of does the interface you want to use have drivers for the specific MacOS you’re running.

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Ryanrrr wrote:

lol I only said the RME babyface because its the one i had (and is known to be a best on latency speeds) so recommended it, but should have been clearer

certainly dont need an expensive one

Exactly. And it’s not necessary to buy a new interface either. Unlike something you actually play on like guitar or keyboard unless an interface has been abused a used piece will suffice. Ebay or Reverb are good places to check.

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Now I don’t know about Jeff Porcaro but I can impart a bit of knowledge on Mr. Gadd. First off he uses Yamaha drums. Second he uses brushes more than you think he would – not just on snare work but everywheres else on the kit. He gets hits that you’d swear were sticks but are brushes. And sometime he uses 2 brushes in each hand. Catch a look at the stuff he does with Eric Clapton and you’ll see good examples of what I’m talking about. This is one thing that the stock core library that comes with SD3 lacks – brush hits and snare drum swirls. Oh and don’t forget he plays traditional grip and gets some serious powerful hits with his left hand.

Brushes – not just for snare drums anymore 🙂

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machine_74 wrote:

I gotta say, with a $1500 kit and a $300 software program, another physocal add-on never came up when purchasing any of it. I know that’s how they “get you”, but I feel like this should work without the additional module. Who knows.

There’s not ‘got you’ in all of this. It’s all a simple matter of what’s been said multiple times in this thread – if you want good performance then you NEED a separate audio interface. Things are only as good as the weakest link and that’s the audio of your computer. You don’t need a $1000 interface.

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