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[drumjack52]

Don’t see one; watch the short video on the product page for the ‘unlisted instruments’.

Jack
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• This post was modified 2 weeks ago by drumjack52.

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etheory wrote:

Thanks Jord,

But that’s not what I want to do. I don’t want to have to bake out the drumkit to .wav and then pitch shift in the DAW if I can do so within SD3, since if I can do so within SD3 I can tweak things without a large loop.

Such a feature would drastically accelerate my workflow, and from the implementation POV, would be fairly straightforward to do.

Not that easy to do especially you’d have to account for every eq that SD3 has and as you should know not every eq works the same. Don’t know what daw you use but if it has a faster than real time function it’d hardly slow you down. You’re going just have to do it the regular old school way.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

bpjacobsen wrote:

My SD3 keeps crashing a minute or so into playing...

My SD3 keeps crashing a minute or so into playing my kit. It’s been working flawlessly for a year or so and now I can’t even play. WTH? It usually will start out OK then it starts to making crackling sounds, then it stops working and my pc just freezes and white screens, then I have to shut down. Why would this suddenly start happening? I didn’t apply any updates recently so nothing has changed other than I did some re-arranging of my drum configuration on the kit. I don’t see why that would cause this issue though. Please help!!

My SD3 keeps crashing a minute or so into playing my kit. It’s been working flawlessly for a year or so and now I can’t even play. WTH? It usually will start out OK then it starts to making crackling sounds, then it stops working and my pc just freezes and white screens, then I have to shut down. Why would this suddenly start happening? I didn’t apply any updates recently so nothing has changed other than I did some re-arranging of my drum configuration on the kit. I don’t see why that would cause this issue though. Please help!!

Standalone or in a daw and if the latter which one? Latest revision of SD3? I’d check to see if your computer is overheating. Clean out the dust bunnies if you can. Sometimes of late ProTools will start crackling on me and the only way to clear it is to shut down and reboot. Then there’s the times I have to do a cold boot and unpower everything complete to the wall socket to clear the issue. If you have a cpu meter check to see what it’s showing.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Age of D&D has nothing to do with anything. There’s something to be said for older stuff if it fills the bill for what you want to do. All SDX’s are quite good with sound quality and comparing one to another that way all comes down to where each was recorded, what equipment was used, the drummer and the person(s) behind the board. It’s what fits the tune.

I’ve been using D&D for quite the while and it’s good for stuff beyond metal. There’s quite the spread of sound between the 2 sections with (to me) Death being the most metal oriented. I’ve also used it on straight rock, prog rock and most everything else except for pop rock. Heck I’ve even used a Darkness kit for a Charlie Brown Christmas tune. If you want an SDX that hits hard for metal I’d suggest looking at the Area 33 SDX. That can hit like a ton of sledgehammers.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Are you looking to change the pitch or just speedup/slow down things? They’re two different things and if not done right you end up with the chipmunk effect. As to changing the EQ center points you could use automation in your daw. Of course there’s always Autotune.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Zachb36 wrote:

On the drums page, it still shows as “Instrument 1”

Reply To: Rename added instruments version: 3.4.2
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You can’t change that. The only place that name really means anything is in the MIDI/edrums setting window.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Double click on the kit piece name in the SD3 mixer and you can change the name there.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

I’m confused – exactly what are you talking about? Those are parameters one would typically find for a VCA in a synth or some kind of envelope shaper.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Zachb36 wrote:

drumjack52 wrote:

Did you do the setup in CueMix 5? And don’t forget to use multi-channel out for the SD3 mixer.

Yeah, cumix is set up, but how am I supposed to set this up in SD3?

 

I have:

1. Kick (stereo) outs 1 and 2 on the mk5
2. Snare (Stereo) outs 3 and 4 on the mk5
3. Toms (Stereo) outs 5 and 6 on the mk5
4. Cymbals (Stereo) outs 7 and 8 on the mk5
5. Ambiance/Crunch (Stereo) outs 9 and 10 on the mk5

I don’t NEED kick in stereo, so I can free that line up if I can get this figured out.

Even with the SD3 mixer set to multi-channel it’s output is always on the main output (channels 1/2) of SD3. That gets routed to channels 1/2 of Cuemix. Then back in the SD3 mixer you route the snare to channels 3/4 output of SD3, and so on for the rest of the discrete outputs you want to feed to Cuemix. I suggest reading the manual that comes with Cuemix for further help. Or ask for help over on the Motunation forum.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Did you do the setup in CueMix 5? And don’t forget to use multi-channel out for the SD3 mixer.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Allan wrote:

OK guys problem solved –

I stuck IM on and it worked.

With Logic Pro, you do not need to do that and I just assumed it was some sort of routing issue.

PT is not very intuitive to be honest. I only want to use it sparingly.

Every day is a school day – many thanks for all your input and feedback it was greatly appreciated!

Forums are such a fountain of knowledge when you are stuck!

Operating system: macOS Sonoma (14)

• This post was modified 1 month ago by Allan.

Did you try anything I wrote to try? Start out simple with SD3 by it’s lonesome on an instrument track and go from there. You don’t need any input monitoring or record arming to get audio out from SD3 (at least not in PT 2021.6). For further questions on all things PT I’d suggest a couple of things: head on over to the DUC forum at  https://duc.avid.com/ which is an excellent source for info on PT. I’ve spent countless hours over the decades there helping out people. My screenname there is musicman691. The other is to check out videos on YouTube for free stuff and Groove 3 for paid for videos.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

I don’t all this talk about record arming an instrument track etc. to get a response from SD3 but in PT2021.6 with SD3 (mixer set for stereo output) on an instrument track and it’s output routed to either an aux track or main out I don’t need to record enable anything to get reaction and sound from SD3. It’s only if that instrument track with SD3 is routed to an audio track. And even if I don’t record arm an audio track if it’s input is the track SD3 is on I still see action going on in the drum page of SD3. The way the OP worded his problem was that he’s seeing on response in the SD3 drum page.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Allan wrote:

Hi, many thanks for the replies! Still not working I am afraid…

I have doubled checked everything and it’s still not playing through PT.

 

SD3 is is working as a standalone and it also works seamlessly with LP

 

I have made a small vid that clearly show what is happening. However, I cannot upload other here.

 

Is there a way of showing anyone this vid on here? It may just crack the code if someone see it?

Reply To: Not output from Protools using SD3 version: 3.4.1
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Did you do what I wrote and put SD3 on a single instrument track without any fancy routing? Did you also check what I wrote?

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Allan wrote:

Hi, I have one little (stupid) query I am sure...

Hi, I have one little (stupid) query I am sure you guys can help me with easily.

I have downloaded Protools Artist (never used PT before) to use for the first time with SD3  (also using eDRUMin module as my main module on a Roland e-kit).

I have set up the drums to play separately on each instrument channel in PT and that is fine (everything is coming across).

However, when I  actually play my e-kit there “is activity” on my EDRUMin module (i.e. the module reacts to me playing but “no” physically reaction coming from SD3 i.e. when I physically hit the kit there is no movement on the SD3 screen.

I have been using Logic prior to this and it works absolutely fine – what am I doing wrong here – I guess I am missing an output issue (sorry very new to PT)

Reply To: Not output from Protools using SD3 version: 3.4.1
Operating system: macOS Sonoma (14)

Hi, I have one little (stupid) query I am sure you guys can help me with easily.

I have downloaded Protools Artist (never used PT before) to use for the first time with SD3  (also using eDRUMin module as my main module on a Roland e-kit).

I have set up the drums to play separately on each instrument channel in PT and that is fine (everything is coming across).

However, when I  actually play my e-kit there “is activity” on my EDRUMin module (i.e. the module reacts to me playing but “no” physically reaction coming from SD3 i.e. when I physically hit the kit there is no movement on the SD3 screen.

I have been using Logic prior to this and it works absolutely fine – what am I doing wrong here – I guess I am missing an output issue (sorry very new to PT)

Reply To: Not output from Protools using SD3 version: 3.4.1
Operating system: macOS Sonoma (14)

Go to the View menu in PT and have the Edit screen show ‘Instruments’. Check that the MIDI input for the PT track you have SD3 on is set for SD3. Sometimes PT doesn’t get the assignment right. What I would do in your case being a newbie to PT is to just instantiate an instrument track in PT and put an instance of SD3 on there and then play your ekit. It’s always best when troubleshooting to strip things down to the bare minimum. Also check your computer is really seeing the MIDI output of your drum brain by looking at Audio/MIDI setup in MacOS.

Actually the first thing I would do is to open SD3 standalone and see if it works with your ekit.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Mick Avoidant wrote:

Firewall. I switched it off and Webshop connected. I hotspot my laptop off my phone and have done for five years.

 

Firewall is Norton.

That explains much. When I ran a Windows system I had the full Norton suite on our computers and it was a nightmare. There were so many conflicts with Windows itself. Nevermore quoth The Raven.

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