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[drumjack52]

Get with Roland tech support and ask them if the particular setup you have is compatible with each other. Tell them everything – any adapters included. The Roland documents should be able to give you what each pad puts out in the MIDI stream. If not Tech support should have that info.

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[drumjack52]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

It almost has me wondering: what is the purpose of this MIDI note change, and is it worth it?

jord

As best as I can figure out the OP is looking to use a different preset that possibly has different MIDI mapping than his existing preset and he doesn’t want to mess up his automation. IOW he wants to change the MIDI mapping of the new preset to his old mapping. I don’t see why he doesn’t just change the mapping of the new preset in SD3?

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[drumjack52]

Frode: Glad to hear you got it sorted out. Another good reason for having samples on a separate drives is if something goes wrong and a drive dies or you have to do a system restore. I had to do that over the weekend to my system drive when my email program suddenly lost all it’s folders and emails. Thankfully I had a clone from the day before and all it took was about 6 minutes to fix things up. I also keep my sessions on yet a third drive. And my backups/clones are all on separate drives as well.

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[drumjack52]

TIBrent wrote:

Yeah I do all my midi programming inside Studio One because I find the midi editor the most comprehensive & customizable (to a degree). I like being able to label the articulation name to the left, drag to re-order things & that the velocities are pretty accessible. But, the limitation comes at trying to re-work existing midi, especially when its like 50 note articulations I am re-working. I don’t do my midi programming in SD3 because it seems all too much to house inside one instrument plugin.

There’s not going to be any easy way to do what you want. Could you try remapping inside the preset itself?

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[drumjack52]

Could you do something like I do in ProTools in it’s MIDI editor? Here’s what I do: highlight the MIDI track and select ‘open in MIDI editor’. There’s a piano roll at the left side of that window. I then select the MIDI note in the piano roll which highlights all those particular notes I want to move. I then right-click any of the notes and select ‘transpose’ and up comes a windowlet that allows me to specify the amount of transpose and I hit okay and all of those notes (and those only) are moved to the new location. Data like velocity moves with those notes as I’m not moving in time (horizontal) but vertical.

The other way would be instead of opening the transpose windowlet I just drag and drop all the selected notes to the new location but that can be fraught with peril if one gets twitchy with the mouse. Been there/done that. I don’t do MIDI inside of SD3 but just in whatever daw I’m using so I’ve never even tried doing it in SD3.

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[drumjack52]

First thing I usually tell people to do when they are having supposed MIDI problems is to get the free utility snoize. You run it in standalone mode and it will tell you what is being sent from any device connected via MIDI. If everything is as you think it should be that would tend to rule out the drum brain.

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[drumjack52]

The cymbals all work here

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[drumjack52]

There are several kits in the stock library that have the word ‘tape’ in them. Which one? Any reason you’re not on the latest revision of SD3?

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Frode Hansen wrote:

Thank you for that, and for all the other input.
of course, the disk works with other stuff as the OS is located on it – didnˋt think of that.

I will look into what other processes might happen as I load.
In the meantime, a new 4TB M.2 and an additional 32Gb of RAM is headed my way. So hereafter all plugin libraries will be stored there.

Reply To: SD3 very slow loading. version: 3.4.0
Operating system: Windows 11

The big thing to look for is do you have an anti-virus program running/scanning your files? If so check into whether you can have SD3 and your daw whitelisted so it doesn’t get scanned.

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[drumjack52]

John wrote:

drumjack52 wrote:

When you do a drag and drop like you say does Windows leave the file in it’s original place as well as placing the file in it’s new place so you have 2 identical files in 2 different places? I know MacOS does that unless you use a key modifier.

When you drag and drop a folder in the Explorer from one location to another it will be Moved if it is on the same drive, copied if it is between different drives.
Modifier keys are: Ctrl for copying instead of moving; and Shift for moving instead of copying.

Changing path to a library can be done in the PM via the Installation Info tab or setting the path in SD3 via Settings>Libraries/Paths.

BR,
John

Thanks. So Windows is just like MacOS in that regard. I don’t do all that much in WinLand anymore.

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[drumjack52]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

Taking minutes to load is not normal. Something is stealing loading time. Do you have any disk tools or  virus checkers running?

As for reloading your libraries, this is as easy as dragging them to the new disk and pointing Superior Drummer to the new locations. The production manager will know where they are in order to update them.

jord

• This post was modified 1 week, 6 days ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

When you do a drag and drop like you say does Windows leave the file in it’s original place as well as placing the file in it’s new place so you have 2 identical files in 2 different places? I know MacOS does that unless you use a key modifier. Been a ton of years since I ran a Windows system that deeply.

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[drumjack52]

Frode: You say that the computer was freshly booted and the drive was not in use by something else. Actually it was because the operating systemw as also using the drive. One question you haven’t answered is – is anything else running on your machine? What other processes? What exactly does it mean when you say the power options are set to ‘performance’? There are many settings possible as shown here: https://www.nextofwindows.com/performance-settings-windows-11

There are 2 things one can never have too much of: money and ram.

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[drumjack52]

Mark King wrote:

I just realised the default kit mentioned is 25Gig in size. That is huge. I wonder if the problem lies there. What if you pull up a preset. Does that load fast? My kits are about 4 to 8Gig and load in less than 10 seconds. Going on that then a 25Gig kit should load in about 30 seconds.

I use contact libraries (not drums) but they don’t tend to be as large as sd3. When I moved from ssd to m.2 there was a big difference in load times.

• This post was modified 1 week, 6 days ago by Mark King.

I’m seeing roughly 20 to 25 secs loading time for an Area 33 kit that I use that’s like 24 gig – both standalone and in ProTools – but that shouldn’t matter. And this is off of a bog standard SSD mounted on the motherboard of my 2012 MacPro desktop. 48 gig of ram so there’s plenty of room for everything else. I still think ram might well be an issue (actually the lack of plenty of ram space).

Like I asked earlier – what else is running on the computer?

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[drumjack52]

Frode: Do you have SD3 set to ssd for disk type? As Mark said it’d be good to move all SD3 content (except for the program itself) off of the system drive. Never a good idea to have sample content on the system drive for the reasons Mark stated. Also make sure that you have disabled all power savings measures on your computer – in a typical Windows install they are enabled by default. What else do you have running on your computer? Is there any way you can increase the amount of ram? Having a 24 gig load coming from SD3 doesn’t leave a whole heck of a lot for Windows and whatever else is running.

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[drumjack52]

How you got I was trying to trash you I don’t know. I was just mentioning to Eddie to essentially not waste any more time here arguing with you Jord. If you can’t understand that then I don’t know what to say. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – this is why this forum should have PM (private messaging) system so the thread doesn’t go off the rails.

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