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Rudal wrote:

Olof Hermansson wrote:

Yes, this is something we definitely want to implement/improve.

3 years later and still nothing changed.

I wish I could be so efficient at my work.  😀

I don’t think TT has the programming chops get it done. Elsewise it would have been done.

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sakendrick wrote:

It’s a work computer and our IT requires us to run antivirus – I can’t shut the task down. I’ve also been thinking about switching to MAC for my personal media production work – but it’s a big investment, and to be honest, I find Macs incredibly hard to use, but that’s because I’ve been a windows (and android) user my whole life.

I just worked a session for about an hour with two instance of SD3 running, setting my SD3 cores to 4 and no drop outs. I was even running on battery power. This is feeling very positive.

That’s good to hear – in part. What’s not good is hearing that you’re in a corporate setting and that limits what you can do to get a stable repeatable system. Hate to say it but you’re screwed unless you get your own computer. Macs (once you make the jump) are not  that much of a problem. If I were you I’d save up and get your own computer (PC or Mac) and jump off that situation you’re in. That you’re doing this on a work computer doesn’t bode well for your music future. Is your employer cool with what you’re doing?

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Scott: sounds like you have a good handle on debugging things. Those Windows updates are probably what screwed up your system. It’s never good to stay on the bleeding edge as living there can get one cut-up pretty bad. I understand it’s not all that easy to prevent Windows from updating. That and that antivirus running that’s another thing that will mess one up. When you say domain policy in reference about stopping you from shutting it down – I don’t understand – is your computer on some kind of network or what? Please explain as if this is your personal computer you should be able to do what you want with it.

I used to run a Windows machine for music but gave that up due to all the headaches involved. Mac here and an old one at that. But it serves my purpose without headache. I feed it good power and don’t update anything unless I absolutely have to.

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Have you updated your Windows install by any chance? What other programs do you have running besides Studio One? Antivirus? Anything wireless? Do you have a separate drive for your samples? Is your computer overheating by any chance? Have you tried changing the number of cpu cores used in SD3?

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Are you using the Product Manager? Could you show us a screenshot of what you see in there? I don’t recall seeing the PM ask for a daw system version number but then again it’s been 2+ years since I’ve had to do an authorization. All I remember is it asking for the serial number and if you want to authorize the computer you’ve installed SD3 on.

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You don’t need the surround files but you might want to install the bleed files though.

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The thing to keep in mind with doing a transfer from the old machine to the new one is will your old plugins work on the new operating system? Doing things that way you may well have a LOT of updating to do. What ever way you go take your time.

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What exact Mac do you have and what exact port types does it have? If it’s USB 3.2 not all devices support that. And USB 3 cables themselves can be finicky. Are you running through any kind of adapter?

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lhcaudio@gmail.com wrote:

I’ve seen many people do it this way online. In the drum brain there’s options to turn off local control and set the driver to be compatible with sending MIDI Data making it work properly. I don’t see how this is cutting corners. If you could explain in more detail on this I’d appreciate it.

But also, I’d still like to get to the bottom of why it stopped working. If this was cutting corners would there not have been signs that it’s “failing”? It’s been working great since we first set it up (June last year) and then all of a sudden stopped after not plugging it in for about a month (February 2nd was the last time).

I’ll look into using an interface again, I just didn’t see a point last time I researched this since the drum brain basically took care of that.

Thanks for your quick replies.

Operating system: macOS Sequoia (15)

MIDI and audio are two different things. Local control only applies to MIDI and you only need to turn that off if you’re using SD3 to trigger the brain so you don’t get double hits. Using the drum brain as an audio interface is what’s cutting corners. And there’s the latency as there’s no way the brain will have the low latency you need for feeding the audio coming from the computer/SD3 combo to FOH for use in a live situation. Just because you saw someone on YouTube do it doesn’t make it a go-to thing. Trust someone who’s been doing this kind of thing for decades

What are you using for getting audio from the computer to the brain? Please don’t tell us you’re using the headphone output from the computer as that’s as low quality as you can get. The impedance and levels will be all wrong.

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This is one case where size does NOT matter. Period. It’s the connection protocol that matters (impedance, level, etc.). Your second paragraph makes my point – you really need to get things right and get an audio interface elsewise you’re going to have problems (you’re looking at different things when you say it works ok with your iem’s connected to the computer). That it supposedly worked for you – you got lucky and now you’re paying the piper. Get an audio interface ( they don’t cost much) and if you really care about your work especially in worship music then people will thank you. I’ve been through this stuff for decades and there’s no cutting corners. You can’t just patch cables and hope things work.

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Why not simplify things and go straight from your computer to FOH? Why route from computer to drum brain to FOH? That you get signal into SD3 when playing your kit just means that MIDI is getting to your computer/SD3 – there’s no audio in that link.

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Are you using SD3 standalone or in a daw? When you say ‘going to mixing’ to me that implies using a daw. If so then why not just use multi-out in the SD3 mixer and route the tracks to separate audio tracks in said daw?

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DrewBySnacks wrote:

I finally figured out what was happening and why it was so random and inconsistent/impossible to replicate the issue every time. I have a Macbook Pro with a “Magic Mouse” that has touch scroll both directions. I didn’t realize I had scroll enabled to adjust parameters inside SD3, so not only was moving my finger left or right on top of the mouse adjusting the gain fader in the bottom right corner of SD3’s UI window, it was ALSO messing with velocities sometimes.

If anyone else runs this software with a touch scroll mouse from Apple make sure that shit is turned OFF

Glad you got it sorted. But seriously may I suggest getting a real mouse? The first thing I did when I got my first Mac at home was to ditch that ‘Magic Mouse’ and get a real mouse. A Mac doesn’t need a Mac specific rodent. A bog standard mouse from even a Windows machine will work. The only time you need specific drivers is if the mouse you’re using has a multitude of buttons on it.

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John: Thanks for the explanation. I wish the manual had better explanations of things with bleed a good example.

Thanks for correcting the thread title. Sometimes my computer keyboard keys bounce and I end up with strange things happening.

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John wrote:

Hi Jack,

when you create a new X-Tom, e.g. Rack Tom 3 -> Rack Tom 4, there is no extra bleed available for that X-Tom channel going into it; i.e. the Bleed from e.g. the Snare would be exactly the same as for the Rack Tom 3. There is no extra physical microphone introduced, it would be the same as for Rack Tom 3, i.e. exactly the same Bleed would come through two microphone channels, which isn’t good. The other way around works though; your newly created X-Tom 4, which you most likely have pitched down, will have bleed available according to have you have Routed the Microphones for it. Most likely through most of the Microphone channels if you have opted for the Default Routing scheme.

BR,
John

I don’t quite understand your last two sentences at least how you have it worded. Would you explain further? If I check mic routing for the 4th rack tom it shows all the bleed mics like other existing kit pieces have.

Also could you fix the mispell in the thread title to Xdrum ?

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