[confundido]

OK here’s a bit more from my son. Can you tell he’s 19?

Yeah but I think this way of doing drums is really good because there’s sm free downloads out there on the internet. If u wanna be rly picky tho the sounds aren’t always the highest possible quality but they’re good enough that I don’t rly notice

So he did two 1 minute videos showing how he imports these downloaded drums into FL and if you’re interested I’ll find some way to share those (if’n it’s OK with toontrack)

confundido aka Dennis

[confundido]

OK my son uses FL and admittedly he’s more about “making beats” which I’d say is not the focus of EZD. He says he just searches for “future drum kit Reddit download” and Future is a rap artist so he’s looking for similar sounds. And then he says “I can use all my downloaded sounds in FL”. I’m not familiar with FL so I don’t know what FL uses to “play” the sounds but maybe Reaper has some facility.  So I’m not affiliated in any way with EZD but as a software developer I’d guess their pushing the platform pretty hard and have a pretty big API “surface area” to give all the EDZ functionality and it might be a bit tricky to port that to Linux. Well not “port it do Linux” but verify that it all works under WINE.

I’m going to try to attach 2 videos he made explaining how he does things in FL. Totally foreign to me.  And apologies to toontracks, don’t mean to be promoting a free way to do things, just trying help this guy. Feel free to delete if I’m crossing a  line.

confundido aka Dennis

P.S. Oops, no attachments. It says “too big” even tho they’re not a whole lot bigger than a modern hires JPG.

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[confundido]

Well you’re a braver man than I. I spent a huge amount of time just getting my DAW to behave on straight up Windows. Once I did that, EZD just worked.

Maybe some of that other plugs just happen to work without the companies having to devote resources and testing to it. EZD seems to be a pretty complex plug though and then they’ve also got a raw .exe of it as well. I doubt it makes financial sense for them to devote limited dev/test resources to vetting their product on a single digit market segment.

As a software developer myself I’ve always got people passionately asking me for a particular feature that would only be used by a small number of people. And I have to weigh importance against a feature that will benefit lots of folks.

My son works without a drum plug, just gets free drum packs from the Internet. Lemme ask him how he does things.

confundido aka Dennis

[confundido]

I re-read the bottom of your post. You’re already set up using WINE but does that work for a program as complex as a DAW? DAWs typically really need to use every ounce of the OS’s hardware device access APIs. I do see a number of DAWs listed for Linux and I’ll be darned there’s a bunch of stuff about VST for Linux.  I’ll still go back to the fact that Linux is a teeny fraction of the desktop market and it’s financially unattractive to develop for for that reason. Maybe the US government will change that and finally make Linux desktop a reality!

confudido aka Dennis

[confundido]

I think there are still insurmountable issues delivering a product to Linux. I use Linux extensively for my web sites but I’m not a Linux guru by any shot so folks correct me if I’m wrong.

1. Overall market share of Linux is still too small to make it financially feasible to developer for it.  I don’t want to assign it a number but I think you’d usually think of it as having in the very low single digit percent of the desktop market.  Huge in server, but still no desktop.
2. There are a number of popular distros and they’re all slightly different: Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, CentOS, RedHat (used to be pretty huge, now not sure), and many others.
3. There is no single desktop environment across all those distros. And the user usually has to become pretty nerdy to get a desktop set up on Linux. In the server market where it’s very popular you access servers via terminals programs and other fairly low level tools and everything is heavily CLI (command line interface) and manually editing config files.
4. Even if you could navigate all the differences and somehow figure out what to do desktop-wise there is (now correct me if I’m wrong here) no single binary format that runs on all.  And I’m not aware of a spec for VST (the music plug-in interface that is widely used for music products like EZD).

Maybe a Linux guru can talk about how to skin these cats but Linux has been claiming “this is the year of the Linux desktop” for probably 20 years now and I still don’t think we’re there.

Again, like many others I use Linux on the server and don’t have personal experience with it on a desktop, but even server use requires you to still be pretty techy.

confundido aka Dennis

Operating system: Windows 11

[confundido]

You should probably have that stuff in your DAW and that’s where you would probably add it.  Use the Mixer tab in EZ Drummer to assign drums to specific outputs and then add effects (insert one or more audio effect plugins) to the drum(s) you want. I never use the reverb in EZD because there’s a lot more power and flexibility in the DAW. Ditto for compression, gating, or other effects.

confundido

 

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[confundido]

You can assign drums to individual outputs (see attached) and then apply EQ and/or effects to those channels in your DAW. Click on the “Mixer” tab. This is probably the most common way of doing things as you’ll usually want to run a kick pretty dry, put a bit of verb on the snare, and possibly dump the toms into a bigger reverb field.

 

 

 

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[confundido]

Yeah I’ve got the Hip-hop expansion and that allows me to do the characteristic tuned 808 kick and the 808 electronic hihats which are pretty much the cue that it’s rap (along with those funny little bursts of hihat or snare).  I thought Toontracks had some specific Rap expansion and I thought I recalled listening to the demo for it. Maybe it was something else tho.

[confundido]

Thanks. I made the same assumption as soundsgood. Turns out my recent question about the clap was asked before several times.

Dennis

[confundido]

Yeah and my Launchkey Mini just has a 2 octave keyboard and no UI to figure out where it’s transposed to. Man I know I spent an hour looking for how to trigger those extra percussion elements. I guess it’s like when I look in the fridge and can’t find something and then my wife comes in and it’s right there in front of me.

Dennis

[confundido]

Wow I was sure I’d exhaustively been thru the Piano Roll view but this morning I went back and sure enough clap, shaker, and tambourine are accessible down on C# 0, D 0, and D# 0.  The basics are up 3 octaves: kick is C3, snare is D3, and rimshot is E3. Duh. Thanks for causing me to reexamine.

Oh and WRT Mick’s suggestion yeah I looked at the MIDI options on EZD. It apparently just can’t be a MIDI source as I never see it as an input on the track.

Dennis

 

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[confundido]

Thanks for the responses. I don’t own Pop Punk or Fusion.

Regarding the DAW supporting “stacking”, lemme make sure I’ve got it right. I add a 2nd ezDrummer and set the source as the same MIDI track. I select a different kit (or at least a different snare) and only assign the snare output from the second instance. And then ta-dah  I have two snare tracks and I can pan them individually.  Doesn’t give me note-level control and I can’t do stereo flams but automation can bring it in and out. That could work. Thanks for the idea.

Dennis aka confundido

[confundido]

It looks like that left most pad group allows me to do chromatic kicks.  So I’m gonna mess with that a bit.  The pad on the bottom right of that group looks like it’ll do the trick and I can access from a higher octave of my MIDI keyboard.

[confundido]

It just occurred to me, I can insert a whole new EZ Drummer track and set up the kit differently with the desired tuning.  Any way to do this short of having an entire track for every note?

Reply To: tuned 808 kick version: 2.2.3
Operating system: Windows 11

[confundido]

No, I have an older copy of Ez Drummer 2. I didn’t spend a lot of time researching Bandmate but I don’t see how that would do it either.

I’d be happy to just be able to assign an arbitrary sound to one of the pads and then I could edit that pad.  But I only get a very limited selections of instruments to choose from.

I only do this very occasionally and would therefore prefer not to spend any more money if at all possible.

Thanks,

Dennis

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