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[ChristopherDuncan]

Okay, was able to create the drum map for Cubase, thanks very much for all the help. I’m sharing it so others can make use of it.

Hope this helps someone else as much as you guys have helped me.

Thanks,

Chris

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[ChristopherDuncan]

OS development? That sounds fun. I’m just your typical full stack corporate dev (MS tech). It ain’t glamorous, but it beats working for a living.

[ChristopherDuncan]

I make a living as a software developer, so convoluted is kinda what I do.

And yeah, using the other doc as a reference makes sense. However, this file saves me a bunch of typing grunt work (nice to have a good programmer’s editor to automate things), so then it’s just about tweaking some values.

Whenever I get this done I’ll be happy to share the map with anyone else who would benefit from it.

[ChristopherDuncan]

Hey, Brad.

That’s awesome, man. Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

One question. In the representative entry below, there’s a mainkey entry, which I’m guessing is what I’d use. However, there are also a lot of note entries. Any idea what those are about?

name “Maracas”
{
prio 0
mainkey 70
note 1
note 4
note 5
note 69
note 70
}

[ChristopherDuncan]

Oh, well. Typing it it is, then.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, man. Much appreciated.

[ChristopherDuncan]

Hey, Shootie.

Thanks for the help.

That does indeed show the mapping. However, saving to pdf gives me an image. I was hoping to copy the text of the names / notes to paste into an editor so I wouldn’t have to manually type out the entire thing to create the drum map. Any chance there’s a simple, plain text version of this documented somewhere?

[ChristopherDuncan]

Thanks, John.

Always good to know the possibilities and then go from there.

[ChristopherDuncan]

Thanks, Scott. Appreciate the help.

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[ChristopherDuncan]

Hey, Scott.

Think I got it sorted. There was an older version of the dll in one of the Cubase paths, and for reasons passing understanding program files\common\vst3 wasn’t in the path. Added that, got rid of the old dll, and the message no longer appears. Here’s version info from the bottom right hand corner (thanks, I would have missed that).

Am I latest and greatest now?

EZdrummer plug-in version 2.1.8 (build 21073) [64-bit VST]

SOUND LIBRARIES
Drumkit from Hell version 1.5.3
EZdrummer 2 Modern version 1.1.2
EZdrummer 2 Vintage version 1.1.2

MIDI LIBRARIES
Basic Rock 2 version 1.0.0
Basic Rock Fills version 1.2.0
Basic Rock version 1.2.0
EZdrummer 2 Modern/Vintage version 1.0.2
EZdrummer 2 Percussion version 1.0.2
EZX Drumkit from Hell Guests version 1.5.0
EZX Drumkit from Hell version 1.5.0
Rock Solid version 1.2.0
Rock Songs version 1.2.0
Rock! version 1.2.0
Superior Drummer 3 version 1.0.0

[ChristopherDuncan]

Okay, I just updated every aspect of EZ, and am still getting the same error message on startup. Version is showing in Cubase as 2.4, image attached.

[ChristopherDuncan]

I’ll look it up when I get back into the studio, but when this started happening it was the latest version with all possible updates applied.

If memory serves, I believe it started happening right after I installed Superior. Is there something about having both installed that would cause EZ to become confused like this? Or are there MIDI packs that work with EZ but not SD?

This all seems odd to me because MIDI is MIDI.

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[ChristopherDuncan]

Hey, Scott.

Appreciate the perspective. That’s pretty much the conclusion I’d come to, but I was guessing. It’s nice to know that it’s a matter of design.

When I need great sounds quick and easy, then EZD does exactly what it says on the tin. When I reach a point where I want to do my own mixes with S3, I’m sure it’ll perform just as well in that context.

Thanks, man.

[ChristopherDuncan]

Hi, x_name.

Thanks for the help.

I don’t have any trouble getting heavy 80s classic rock drums, e.g. Whitesnake, Bon Jovi, etc. from EZ. It ships with lots of good kits for that straight out of the box. The reason I upgraded to SD was to get the additional mix / mic breakout capabilities. If I use the EZX files from EZ (which you can do in SD), I get the sounds but am limited to EZ’s mix capabilities, so there would be no point staying in SD for that scenario.

Scott seemed mostly interested in demonstrating that SD was “more than metal,” but I still haven’t seen any recommendations for stock SD kits that have the same kind of heavy 80s classic rock drums that EZ had (blues / funk / jazz / dry aren’t really appropriate for Whitesnake). Building them from scratch appears to be the only option.

While I may one day go to the trouble of building a kit in SD from the ground up, part of the appeal of Toontrack products is ease of use. Both EZ and SD are excellent products and very, very easy to get good sounds without having to reinvent the wheel. Which types of sounds is another story.

EZ’s stock rock kits come prepared for heavy 80s rock right out of the box. SD’s stock rock kits come prepared for metal right out of the box. Unless I’m missing something, it completely neglects the 80s rock style I’m looking for, and that EZ has. So, in terms of the pre-built kits, it feels like paying for the flagship product and losing something that the entry level product included.

Admittedly, classic rock is an ancient art form these days. If 90% of your market wants metal, then it makes sense to heavily weight your product to metal. However, since EZ wasn’t so heavily weighted to metal, it was a surprise to me that SD is (something I didn’t discover until I’d spent the money and installed the product).

So far, the only options I see are to use the EZ kits and lose the additional capabilities that I bought SD for, or build a custom kit from scratch instead of using a pre-built stock kit, something I bought Toontrack products in general for.

That said, I do appreciate everyone’s feedback.

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[ChristopherDuncan]

Thanks, Scott.

I’m looking more for big 80s rock drums like Whitesnake, Bon Jovi, etc. than dry and tight / funky, but I’ll dig a little deeper.

I appreciate the effort.

[ChristopherDuncan]

Scott wrote:

I’m not in front of my studio computer at the moment but, not being a metal guy either, I use many of the ‘not metal’ presets in S3 all the time. I’ll try to put a list together.

Thanks, man. I appreciate the help.

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