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Brad wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

OK, well, while the 1/2 output suggestion works for getting one file, it also changes the sound a bit. Like it comes out more dry like it drops some of the ambience and other effects. Not all but definitely a noteable difference, so I’m guessing the better option is the DAW which I do need to learn at some point I guess.

Make sure you have routed all the OH, Ambient and Effects channels to Output 1/2 as well as the microphone channels.

If you provide a mixer screen print we can probably figure out what’s happening.

Is this a custom kit you’ve put together or a SD3 kit and preset? If the latter, which kit and preset?

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As far as I can tell, all banks are set to output 1/2. But something seems a bit off with the sound. like it’s not picking up all affects. wish I had saved as a different name so I could post a sample of both but didn’t think of that until it was too late.

This is from the ‘Too Much Tape’ preset but I have obviously added a bunch of drums to it and tweaked some of the mixers. and updated the snare a bit for the sound I wanted.

In fact, I changed the kick, snare, hi-hat back to their original output settings and the OH Dyn back to AMB and it brought back the original sounds, or at least closer to what it was before. (see mixer settings3 which shows the ones I changed back) so I must have missed something since the sound is def much dryer when setting them all to 1/2

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OK, well, while the 1/2 output suggestion works for getting one file, it also changes the sound a bit. Like it comes out more dry like it drops some of the ambience and other effects. Not all but definitely a noteable difference, so I’m guessing the better option is the DAW which I do need to learn at some point I guess.

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Brad wrote:

I have to ask, what ultimately are you wanting to accomplish? Are you just wanting to listen to your drumming or are you wanting to get your drumming into a session/song in a DAW like Reaper, Studio One, Pro Tools, etc?

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Basically, I Just want to be able to share some Demos of my kits mainly with friends/family. Ideally, I want to setup my phone on a tripod and video me playing AND be able to do like a privately shared youtube video. any other suggestions on best way to do all this are welcome.

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Brad wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

So I see that bounce feature creates a a bunch of separate files. How do I get just one file?

Make sure all channels are routed to output 1/2 in the mixer tab. Then when you are in Bounce, select the Advanced tab and select Bounce Output Channels. This will result in everything being written to one stereo audio file.

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I’m still pretty new with this so I may need more direction on how to route the channels to output 1/2. thanks

[bpjacobsen]

So I see that bounce feature creates a a bunch of separate files. How do I get just one file?

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Mark King wrote:

Midi is messages and not audio. You need to use the bounce feature to get audio.

Bounce feature? OK, I will look it up and see if I can find info on how to use this feature. thanks

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yeah I’ll pass for now. just don’t got the budget to spend $180 per pack right now. besides, I have plenty of good sounds I have been adding that I had from the strike module, 2box samples from their site, and Drumwerks. just don’t need more sounds right now. plenty to keep me busy for a while. lol was just hoping the midi packs would be a cheaper way to get more options but really I don’t need them. thanks!

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well, so far, it’s worked out pretty good. I only had to change a few midi notes on one preset so far. just a time consuming process adding these octobans. but overall, very pleased with the results with eDrumin and my samples. The stock libraries really don’t have much options for these. I’m using mostly samples from the Strike Module that have saved. I just wish that there was a copy feature that would allow you to copy a whole stack and paste to another instrument. would make the process soooo much faster. you can’t even select all to load a stack of samples all at once. it’s one by one. So if you got 30+ samples, it takes time to get them all in there. maybe perhaps in the next version? There definitely needs to be a quicker way of getting your multi-layered samples loaded for larger kits. and there should be an automatic feature that splits up the gates evenly. or at least again, copy stack which will also copy the velocity gates. so all you have to do is change the pitch/tone.

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John wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

Why would the stock library have presets in it that have inconsistent mapping?

Hi,

could you please give an example?
Your subject line mentions added instruments, which would not be the same as stock presets.

BR,
John

What I mean is if I add say 10 instruments to say Modern Metal High preset then I add the same 10 instruments to another one, say Ludmire or something. I found that the midi numbers were slightly different for the same instrument numbers between the two presets. So for example, 3rd octoban in one preset might be pointing to midi 102. But that same octoban in the other preset (same instrument number) points to 107 or something like that. It seems like the midi numbers should be consistent between presets with regards to the instrument number. The stock instruments have been consistent. Just not the added instruments. In other words instrument 3 in one preset should be the same midi as instrument 3 in the other. no different than tom 1, tom 2, etc which have so far been consistent.

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patrick maguire wrote:

Yes the method of adding (stacking) samples to multiple articulations is a bummer. The problem stems from the fact that every sample set doesnt have the same articulatioms. Some snares include many articulations, some only have 3 or 4.

ITs an issue born out of the luxury of the sophisticated articulation design in SD3. IT would be cool if it at least would “try” like replace the obvious ones in a “stack” and leave the missing ones empty. Its been talked about often on this forum.

Being able to “duplicate” and instrument and all the routing parameters would go a long way to solve many of these issues.

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Yes agreed! Like right now, I’m working on the tedious task of adding instruments to 8 octobans. The first one I added was an actual octoban sound and I have about 28 multi-layered samples split up via the velocity gates to get a fairly natural sound. But this takes forever. The ability to copy a whole stack with it’s settings would save gobs of time.

[bpjacobsen]

Would love more help on this please. Why would the majority of all my pads be registering a snare sound? The kit object in the screen is correctly registering the sounds but my actual pads are such that all toms are snare, and the snare is a kick. the kick is also a snare. can’t seem to get Rob to respond on his forum for eDrumin for 2 days. anyone know how to change the mappings in edrumin to match what is in SD3? Pretty sure that is all I need to do but can’t figure out how to be able to edit them. My assumption is, hit the pad to see what pad in edrumin control app flashes, then change the midi note for that pad to match what is assigned to that piece when clicking it in the image in SD3. So if I hit my kick and it shows D1 in eDrumin, but when clicked in the image in SD3 Drum page and it shows F#3 or something like that, change the D1 in eDrumin to F#3 and it should work? Does this sound about right?

[bpjacobsen]

Well, I guess I’m learning this the hard way. Indeed very frustrating. So questions:

1. So I can see now how you can got to he preset list and save as a user preset. But I noticed if I then load another project then select my user preset, it does not load the same mappings? Right now, frankly, my midi mapper seems all jacked up prob b/c I did something wrong from eDrumin. But why does the preset when loaded to a project not have the same mappings. it’s like 3 toms and the snare are all kick sound.
2. I’m in the process of setting up two eDrumin boxes and of course that has it’s own challenges. What is the easiest way to make this right? Do I manually update all midi notes in ED to match SD3? Or the other way around? Also, I think I may have screwed up the SD3 mappings by sending midi from ED to SD3. is there a way to revert to the SD3 default midi map?
3. See number 1 and 2. lol

I wonder if it might just be best to complete all mapping manually in eDrumin then match up those mappings with SD3 midi mapper? I think someone in another thread said they did it that way. This way it’s always correct (as long as you don’t make any changes in ED) Dunno, but would love to not have to re-do mappings for nearly 30 projects. I knew I should have waited. oh well.

Update: So I found this other thread in here:

https://www.toontrack.com/forums/topic/using-sd3-with-edrumin-interfaces/

However, I did not have success with the automatic option. it seems like something is a miss. I have several pads all using the same midi note for some reason. This is driving me insane! I selected both of the interfaces (eDrumin 8) and made sure I selected the superior drummer mapping for both. But I’m wondering if I’m going to have to just do this manually? Like Just, hit for example, the kick, and manually set it to the same note as what shows in SD3 for Kick? and on down the line. The above says to set the midi notes in eDrumin to match SD3. I know if I did it the other way around, it will mess up grooves so I don’t want to mess with SD3 and start changing the midi notes there.

Thanks!

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I will try to take a video of me right clicking and removing from stack and you will see how it removes the whole thing.

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Brad wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

Brad wrote:

Have you tried running 2 instances of SD3? Are you working within a DAW or strictly standalone?

The settings tab > Audio/MIDISetup (standalone only) should allow you to select independent MIDI input devices

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No DAW, just stand alone. It does not appear that you an run two instances of SD3 at once.

Thanks

What OS are you running?

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Beelink Mini PC, AMD Ryzen 7 5800H 8 Core(Up to 4.4GHz), 32GB DDR4 RAM and 1 tb SSD on windows 11. UA volt 4 audio interface. Just got 2 eDrumin 8 boxes and will soon start setting those up.

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Brad wrote:

Have you tried running 2 instances of SD3? Are you working within a DAW or strictly standalone?

The settings tab > Audio/MIDISetup (standalone only) should allow you to select independent MIDI input devices

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No DAW, just stand alone. It does not appear that you an run two instances of SD3 at once.

Thanks

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