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[Tom Conner]

Yah I’m not aware of a way to edit many existing kits at the same time. I wish there were, I have around 140. Though, can this be done by loading a mix preset from another kit? I think that may just be channel settings though.

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[Tom Conner]

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Click on the hi-hat in the picture of the drum set, then click on the articulations and select all of the open hi-hat articulations, there are many – and you can hold shift to select several at the same time. Then on the right in the property box adjust the level of all of those selected articulations. Or alternatively, click each open articulation one at a time and adjust it’s level.

And if you haven’t aready, save this as a user preset. I like that kit too and think I just raised the volume on all the whole hi-hat.

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[Tom Conner]

Thanks for the link Korken, very useful. I noticed that to hear the noise floor in the 16bit version of the song he boosted it by 60dB. Of course in the 8 bit version it was clearly audible. And yes Jord I used AI for the “96dB is a 636 times increase in intensity” since I didn’t know that math.

Heh, we are way off topic for the thread here, sorry Billy!

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[Tom Conner]

Re: 16 bit vs 24 bit sample depth – please point me to any recording that gets close to using 96dB of dynamic range. 96dB is a 636 times increase in intensity, since it’s 2X volume every 10dB. 🙂

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[Tom Conner]

Maybe an unpopular take: 16 bit audio has 96dB of dynamic range and is plenty for any song or instrument. Each 10dB represents a doubling in volume. 24 bit audio is 144dB of range and likely unnecessary. And for sample rate, humans with the best ears can’t hear above 20kHz, which a 44.1kHz sampling rate captures with room to spare. And that 20KHz maximum audible frequency gets lower with age and frequent exposure to loud things like drums and live music.

So IMO we are overdoing it with digital audio above 16 bit and 44.1kHz. DW SoundWorks for example is 24 bit and 92KHz. It is good marketing since most consumers tend to think larger numbers are always better. Unfortunately we are paying with massive file sizes and longer load times for no audible difference.

There are various online digital audio quality tests you can try to see what you think.

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[Tom Conner]

There is a comparison near the bottom of this page that covers some of it. No picture of the drumset, no instrument bleed, less microphones, less samples, less articulations, etc… https://www.toontrack.com/product/superior-drummer-3/

My 2 cents would be drink a few less $8 starbucks coffees per month and stick with SDXs. Also, they are discounted on various sites like Thomann.de and Reverb (my fav place to buy them).

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[Tom Conner]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

Just for poops & giggles, I tested the Oyster Ambience with no limits (created a preset). Quit & re-launched Superior Drummer and went to my other go to libraries and loaded a huge kit (didn’t time it but it went quick). Loaded a few other kits and then went back to this SDX and loaded my custom Oyster Ambience preset – 12 seconds. The only real delay I had was Superior Drummer looking up the preset data, which I will assume is an SQLIte thing.

jord

Jordan, what size is that preset now?

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[Tom Conner]

Ok. And yep, me loading the stock Oyster Ambience kit is about 12 seconds as well, and about double that if all the layer limits are maxed.

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[Tom Conner]

Brad wrote:

Tom Conner wrote:

I did, thanks. Brad, how long does it take your largest preset to load?

Operating system: Windows 11

• This post was modified 1 month ago by Tom Conner.

Well here’s something funny (funny hmmmm, not funny ha ha)…. system had been up for about a week, running Studio One, multiple sessions, started SD3 in a new session and loaded Legacy of Rock > Oyster Ambience from an M.2 SSD. Around 26 seconds.

Rebooted the system, running SD3 standalone, same preset: 12 seconds.

 

Reply To: Faster preset loading? version: 3.4.0
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That is funny “hmmmm”. I imagine something had maybe leaked memory over the time your computer was on, not sure since I don’t know Macs. Thanks for checking the load time – is that the default Oyster Ambience patch or a user preset you edited?

Reply To: Faster preset loading? version: 3.4.0
Operating system: Windows 11

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[Tom Conner]

I did, thanks. Brad, how long does it take your largest preset to load?

Operating system: Windows 11

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• This post was modified 1 month ago by Tom Conner.

[Tom Conner]

My laptop has a Thunderbolt 4 port, but I moved my libraries from my main internal SSD to a second internal SSD, and both are PCIE4 x4 which has a higher max transfer speed than thunderbolt 4. And yes all libraries are set to SSD.

But I don’t think SSD speed is the biggest factor in load time. If you watch disk performance while loading a preset it is sporadic and not maxed out. The max theoretical transfer rate of PCIE4 x4 is 8GB per second – nowhere close to loading a 15GB preset in 20 seconds. The CPU isn’t fully utilized either during preset loading, and neither is memory which has a much faster transfer rate than SSDs anyway. I would love to know where the bottleneck is for preset loading. I suspect the code is not optimized/profiled, and not so much drive or cpu speed.

One thing I have noticed when measuring preset load times is that it’s dependent on what preset was loaded before. If you load a preset from a library followed by a similar one with many of the same intruments the load time will be much faster, I think since it is retainining those intruments in memory. And if the last preset was a really big one it takes longer to clear that out before the new one starts loading. When you said you loaded a 20GB preset in 7-10 seconds, where any of the same instruments in the prior preset? And are you starting the clock right when you click the new preset name, or after the last preset is cleared out? Thanks! I would love to have load times that fast.

Reply To: Faster preset loading? version: 3.4.0
Operating system: Windows 11

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[Tom Conner]

Many programs, websites, and apps allow selecting a dark or light GUI now, but not all. A dark background is considered easier on the eyes and better for battery life and energy consumption, but of course it is subjective. Try turning up the brightness on your screen.

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[Tom Conner]

Yes I had reported that one along with another,  and one was fixed and deployed.  They are waiting for the next deployment for that one.

Reply To: Eerie bug in Stockholm version: 3.4.0
Operating system: Windows 11

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[Tom Conner]

Of course! Yah I bought the Spin Doctors one and am happy with it – though it is really large and I had to trim down the number of layers so it doesn’t take too long to load. I plan to order more. $3 each is a great price and they seem to be well done.

Reply To: Alex Van Halen Drums or Snare sound?? Anyone do it? version: 3.4.0
Operating system: Windows 11

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[Tom Conner]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1za8q-Dkyy1ZPseF37E8KH1AQHdJucehgCR9029fbNpg/edit?gid=0#gid=0&range=A562:A563

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Operating system: Windows 11

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