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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Exact same thing in what way?

Need more details.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

It’s pretty much as Mark said. You can set up your articulation mappings using the MIDI/E drum settings. I think you might be confusing that with the MIDI/audio settings.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

• This post was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

[Bear-Faced Cow]

You might want to try making certain adjustments on that kit piece, such as smoothing. Also, which articulation were you using in fast succession?

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

I heavily agree regarding the process of working in stages. When I’m recording guitars, bass guitar, and vocals I will work more on getting the recording right and I will not focus on mixing until it’s time. I have often been known to say that I will record With everything sounding like a song. That way when it comes time to mix it already sounds like the song I had in mind.  Fortunately, the drums are already recorded like a song so all I really need to do is pick the right drums and go from there.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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Thanked by: drumjack52

[Bear-Faced Cow]

I agree with Jack. I would go as far as to say ditch all the processing on the drums. You will not lose the feel of The song. In fact, you might find more of it if you take care of everything else around it. Practice, cutting frequencies in your guitar and bass, and that will make your drums appear bigger without losing the other instruments.

And just for reference, I’ve have been listening to your song on a similar pair of studio headphones to the ones that I use inside my studio.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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Thanked by: drumjack52

[Bear-Faced Cow]

I had a chance to listen to your song before I responded. I will go on record, saying that I do agree with your peers, in that there is an issue with the drums. However, based on your above post, it sounds like there are a couple of beginner mistakes. I wouldn’t fret over it because we have all made them.

The first thing I hear is that the drums are way too far forward in the mix. It’s important to remember that the song is not about the drums. Quite often is easy to be biased to a particular instrument. However, this is where thinking like an engineer needs to come in.

the first problem is volume. The drums are drowning everything else out. I would start by bringing them down and bringing everything else up. That’s easy.

the second problem are the amount of mids that you are introducing into the drums. This will explain a lot of the ugly frequencies that you are talking about especially in the ride symbols. Jack stated a very important point and that you should never be making any mixed decisions in solo. Always make them in the context of the song. Listening to the drums I’m willing to bet that these were done in solo. I could be wrong and you brought them up to be heard over the rest of the mix. One thing that you should keep in mind is that mixing is not always about boosting. Quite often it is more about cutting. In this case, the drums are no exception. Rather than boost frequencies in the drums try cutting frequencies in the rest of the mix. You might find that without doing any processing on the drums, everything sounds a lot clearer just by cutting everything else around it. The most you might need is a little bit of tape compression on the drums, to even things out.  The secret to any mix is in its mid range.

Trying these two things you might find that everything just feels better overall, and the rides are not as bad as you are perceiving.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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Thanked by: drumjack52 and Kim Mossige

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Without being able to listen to your mix, it’s hard to tell you what’s happening with it or how to fix it. However, it is not the fault of the SDX. The first thing that I will ask, is that because others are claiming that there is an issue with your drums, which I would imagine are probably legit, I would ask the following:

• Are you selecting the right kit pieces for the song?
• Are you applying any necessary processing to the drums to ensure that they sit in the mix?
• Are you playing any necessary processing to the rest of the song to ensure that your drums have the proper space to fit in?

Just having good quality samples is not enough. That is just a starting point. You also don’t need to go multi out unless you are actually doing something with the individual channels. What matters more is that everything fits within the song. Not how many channels you are using.

Seeing as you mentioned the ride cymbal in particular, that might be an extension of your previous thread, complaining that the ride was not loud enough and you are pumping it up 12 dB or so. Aside from the possibility of using a mismatched ride, you might be pushing it a little too loud. In this case, you need to think like an producer/engineer. Using the right ride, it doesn’t need to be that loud to cut through a mix. Different ride cymbals emit different frequencies that either work for or against a song. Once you have selected the right one, then you make it fit.

Your choices have to serve the song. Not the other way around.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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Thanked by: Kim Mossige and drumjack52

[Bear-Faced Cow]

In addition to Brad’s post, use of the Original Mix preset does not have any type of processing on it, so going multi-out would produce the same results and stereo out. Thus, you can apply your own processing within Logic and shape your sound however you wish.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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Thanked by: Burke Ingraffia

[Bear-Faced Cow]

As Shootie said, it depends on the preset.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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Thanked by: Burke Ingraffia

[Bear-Faced Cow]

It sounds like the mappings should have been defined in the MIDI/e-drum settings instead of the preset.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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