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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Especially when they come in waving. 😀

I will admit that my favorite verse in that song is the one just after the guitar solo and police sirens. I never thought I would be using terms from my CB days.

I can hear that LOR kit in some more songs.

I will be checking out your songs shortly. You know I always get to them eventually.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Instead of a producer focused SDX, a more “what if you had this drum kit” kind of thing.  It’s possible there may be dozens of us.  DOZENS!  That want this.

oooh dozens… as opposed to the countless thousands of users (ToonTrack would have better numbers) who look forward to packs which were recorded by world class producers in amazing Studios and use them in their songs. It’s about the music… not the drums itself. Mind you, if you are not taking advantage of all of the tools within Superior Drummer that, allow you to build the kind of drum kits that you are looking for then you are not really using Superior Drummer to its fullest extent.

I do think the tech has come a long way all around.  Such that is it a viable alternative for a lot people when unable access such drums, mics, rooms, engineers etc.  Not to mention the creative opportunities that are possible with e-drums and great samples

Read the above. You can do the above with the core library alone if you wanted. In that case, why are you buying SDXs. if you are referring to physical modeling then no tech has not come along way. I’ll take the real drums in a real environment recorded by a real person any day. I find it rather humorous that you are looking for realism in the most unrealistic ways.

I can imagine issues with some people not like the limitations… “why is it that drum brand not this one.  no buy”.  We have so much genre/era covered already with the producer style series, have to find some differentiator.

You just answered this: genre/era are the differentiators. The same kits recorded by different producers in different studios through different recording chains are different in and of themselves. Knowing the song I’m working on allows me to select the right kit from the appropriate packs to impart the right energy for the song.  And if I need more, I can build it. Everything is already there  So, I don’t understand what you think is missing.

jord

 

 

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Jordan L. Chilcott

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

That is more producer dependent and has very little bearing on ToonTrack. There is no way I would expect to see a brush articulation on a path produced by Tom Dalgety.

The kits that were sampled in this pack serve the genre very well. I have yet to use them in the song, but that takes patients at times.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

You can always go into Edit Play Styles from ann empty region and select the shaker and turn up the amount in the groove. Then you will have a shaker to play along with.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

You probably have to calibrate your velocity hits on the cymbals as well as the output. And yes, you are dealing with recorded drums.

jord

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

You could probably separate the stereo kit with the advanced editors in Melodyne with a bit of tweaking and export to MIDI and see if that works as well.

jord

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Bandmate isn’t made for what you want to do. What you are wanting to do is part of the Tracker feature in Superior Drummer 3.

jord

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Unless you are a producer EZX will do just fine for much less $$.

You also get much less. EZXs work if all you want to do is grab something that is considered mix ready and drop it in your song. However, many of us prefer SDXs because we can tailor the mix. You also forgot to mention bleed channels. They help bring cohesiveness to a drum kit.

SDX has more velocities and articulation variations, more kit pieces and mic, room tracks.

Exactly! You get everything you need to create a drum mix that fits in your song. Many of today’s SDXs are also recorded by legendary producers/engineers to which there are no EZXs.

SDX are huge and take up a LOT of HD space.

Hard drives are inexpensive these days.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

SDX’s are nothing more than more drums and grooves. The drums themselves are recorded by different producers in different studios. Once you installed them by the product manager, you can access them using SD3.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Mark Iline wrote:

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

Not sure why you are using that considering BFD can export directly to EZD, thus eliminating a couple of steps. However at least you are going.

jord

It can, how ?

You can take EZ Drummer’s mapping and enter it into BFD. When you export BFD’s grooves, it will ask you what mapping you want to export the MIDI in. From there you can select EZ Drummer. I did this many times when I was still using BFD3 to make use of Edit Play Styles when it came out. Mind you, the only decent grooves that I had in BFD that were worth exporting were those made by Platinum Samples as they were actually played by a drummer.

jord

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Not sure why you are using that considering BFD can export directly to EZD, thus eliminating a couple of steps. However at least you are going.

jord

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Actually, I implied that you should create the map in BFD as it is far easier in this case.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

BFD3 has the ability to export MIDI using various mappings. You are best to export from there as it probably would be easier to create an EZ Drummer map than a BFD map (BFD3 default mapping is all over the place and does not extend the GM mapping like EZ Drummer does.

jord

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Like Jack, I was a BFD user for 12 years until Superior Drummer 3 came out. A lot of my disappointment with BFD stemmed from not only their drum capturing, but their business model involving expansions.

The “richness” you’re describing are frequencies not conducive to a drum mix. You could say that the concept of well recorded drums awakened something inside when I was using the expansions from Platinum Samples, notably the one from the late great Andy Johns. The BFD packs didn’t give the same kind of life. Those extra frequencies are nothing more than mud.

Enter Superior Drummer 3. Drums recorded by world class producers that I can simply drop into a mix. Much of the mud is taken care of.  Most of the work is done. That to me is a more quality recording. These among other points, are things BFD can’t touch.

jord

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