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[Bear-Faced Cow]

This is hard to answer without hearing what’s happening so far. There could be various reasons your drums aren’t sitting well ranging from:

• choice of kit (makes a huge difference)
• drum bus treatment (cohesion)
• other instruments masking your drums (IOW, your drums may not be the issue at hand)
• stereo bus treatment (overall cohesion of the mix)

those are just a few things.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

How did you move the drummer track to SD3? Did you use the Logic Drum Designer map in SD3 for the the drummer track?

Also check to see if drummer track may also have been in variable hi-hat mode.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Route your channels to separate outs, as you would for a multi-instrument trackbin Logic, and bounce the outs. Note that if you are using a preset with effects in the main output, your preset will sound different even with the same effects on the multiple outs. The equivalent processing would have to be applied on the audio tracks after importing.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

It’s not illusion… it’s a cosmetic bug in the Product Manager.  I got it as well.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

• This post was modified 6 years, 1 month ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

[Bear-Faced Cow]

If you want to maintain realism, don’t quantize right to the grid. Keep it tight enough that it is in time, but loose enough to sound human. as well, don’t quantize every kit piece. Not everything needs to be brought in. Considering that it was played by a human, I wouldn’t touch the velocities.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

SD3 doesn’t have the ability to play audio tracks. You would need a DAw. Logic would be overkill for your purposes, but you should already have GarageBand. You can use that to play your audio whole recording your drums.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Picture’s worth a thousand words:

As Scott pointed out, the manual is your friend. 😉

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

• This post was modified 6 years, 1 month ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

All of these capabilities are already available within SD3, including mono outputs to Cubase. The ride cymbal can be output to its own channel using microphone routing as well as bus routing in the mixer to go to different channels. The routing capabilities are limitless. And, since you’re on the subject of the snare, it was discussed in a different thread about this: the snare bottom was intentionally recorded in stereo, which is why you would be getting two snare channels.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Unless there is a specific ride cymbal that you were referring to, I am not experiencing the same anomaly that you are. I turned up my headphones and listen to a bunch of ride cymbals and they decay fully without any hissing. I tested this with a bunch of mixer channels. What you were probably experiencing is noise resolution of your audio interface at low-volume levels. Once the cymbal decays to a certain level, I wouldn’t be surprised if your interface outputs it as noise.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

I have found that the drier the drum mix, the better the chances of success. I’ve found myself doing some manual adjustments with drum mixes  in more bombastic rooms.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Again, I don’t agree with mixing faders at zero. Aside from not giving a totally accurate mixing picture since all you see are zero faders, you are also losing fader headroom when you want to bring things up on certain parts (and you will in order for the mix to remain energetic and dynamic). Not to mention a lack of perception of the mix when applying pre-fader effects. Plus, if and when you want to use a control surface, you’ll want to maintain better control and have a more accurate picture of your volume (especially with larger track counts) using the fader sliders. From there, route them to a bus/aux channel, which you probably have at 0db. That’s the one you will want to use to adjust your overall drum mix with the rest of your music, apply bus processing, such as a drum bus compressor, tape emulation, parallel compression, etc.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

• This post was modified 6 years, 1 month ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

[Bear-Faced Cow]

What preset are you using. Some of them introduce  noise by nature.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

judahkim wrote:

Thanks!  Just so I have it right and to be clear about my configuration, I’m setting up an instrument in logic and using SD3 on said instrument…then selecting the multi outputs option… then hitting the little plus sign on the track to set up aux tracks in order to add the individual drum parts from SD3…then routing all the parts from SD3 to those aux tracks.   So, in this routing configuration, using the faders on said aux tracks in logic adjusts the GAIN of each drum part( i. e. kick snare etc) ?

Reiterating the above: use the multi-instrument  aux faders in Logic. It doesn’t have to be that complicated.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

I would not recommend this. That would create more work when mixing. Not less. It can also create a sonic mess at the output causing unnecessary  “fix in the mix” movements. There could be other issues as well, such as intersample distortion due to high summing peaks

Pick a key element in your mix and build everything around it and don’t worry about the numbers on the faders. Your ears will tell you where the faders should be.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

• This post was modified 6 years, 2 months ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Arto Lehtonen wrote:

Olof Hermansson wrote:

Preferences (in the application menu)

  Preferences in the application menu. Where is it in the product manager? There is no such thing?

Are you sure? 😉

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

• This post was modified 6 years, 2 months ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

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