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[Bear-Faced Cow]

The Eddie Kramer Legacy of Rock is going to be the perfect addition along side The Rock Foundry (Bob Rock), which has been my go-to SDX since its release.

AIR Studio never sounded so good in a drum library.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

There are multiple reasons for this from the preset being used to the velocity curve of the kit piece itself to the fact that you are also playing through someone else (you’re not Norman Garschke) recorded in another room through some rather hi-tech recording gear (thus the drums aren’t in the room like an acoustic drums). All of this typically falls under the first rule of using any type of sample, drums or otherwise (knowing the features and limitations of your sample). Thus, plenty of variables. Admittedly, however, being a long time drum programmer, and “finger drummer”, makes my end goals considerably different (something more real in the recorded sense). So, for me, loud and soft matter in the context of the song. Even when I am not rolling my own, I will tend to bend other drummers’ playing to fit the context of the song. It also boils down to which drums are more fit for the song, which makes me grateful for more big time producers weighing in with SDXs. I don’t need to delude myself to be a Bob Rock, Forrester Savill or Eddie Kramer (I so can’t wait for this…it may be the only thing I am able to get this year if I am fortunate). They have done it far better than I believe I ever will.

Bingo. This is what I do when I want to get a heavy sound. It’s kinda counterintuitive because this isn’t something you’d do with an analog kit, but damn if you can’t get some crazy aggressive sounds by stacking.

Again, this is about the production and not whether it is possible on an analog kit. Using this to create a little more crack or add some ring, or to come up with something that just cuts through a song, that’s what it’s more about to me. I have very little shame in using it when I need it, because it’s what serves the song. With a wide selection of kit pieces and an unlimited supply of samples (I have countless DVDs that I have amassed over the past decade), there’s nothing that can’t be created. One of my fave stacking tricks, I picked up from watching a video of Richard Chycki: he brings the click out of a kick by attaching a hi-hat sample.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Considering that the entire SD3 library was recorded into a Neve 88RS console, what are you trying to say here?

We have read the OP’s post… perhaps you need to re-read and understand the nature of the SD3 Core Library in relation to the everything else we’ve stated before obfuscating the issue here.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Considering that

Turn up the drum channel and add a touch of compression and stop arguing about a full digital midi library which costs less than a snare drum miked up to a mike-pre not sounding the same as that analogue input.

is not mentioned anywhere else and you instantly replied with a somewhat meaningless and trollish response to mine, I think we both know where my statement was directed, so let’s not be coy.

Now, aside from the fact that use of compression as a part of boosting gain is pretty much a good way to kill a good snare sound when misused, as it is most often by many inexperienced users, there’s a very good reason why the other drum libraries (they’re not midi libraries… that’s something else) are referred to.

And

Apples and oranges my friend, apples and oranges.

Could not be the furthest from the truth of this whole thread. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be clamouring on other threads to get your hands on them.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

James wrote:

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

Compression is not a volume knob.

jord

No, but so many people are….

You just saved everyone a ton of typing by proving that in the above post.

Perhaps explaining your use of the compressor  might garner better results. Or, better yet, inquiring as to why compression might not have been as appropriate perhaps adjusting the velocity curves might have gotten you a bit further.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Compression is not a volume knob.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

I use it as well in SD3. It was one of the first SDXs I got.

SD3 is pretty much backwards compatible with all of available SDXs for SD2.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Nothing worse than a stuck hi-hat. 😀

Glad it’s handled.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

I’m referring to the MIDI CC for the hi-hat.  (either CC1 or CC4).

Velocity is not a factor in this case.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

How are you bouncing? Perhaps, post your project so we can get a better idea of what’s going on.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Check your CC for the hi-hat. If it’s beyond a certain threshold, that particular articulation will play an open pedal.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

PDFs are not convertible to MIDI within DAWs.  The require a scanning application to which there are a few. They are mainly electronic documents for reading as far as any score or musical staff goes.

As was mentioned previously, get the MIDI file for SD3 to use. If the teacher created the score in a DAW, they can export the MIDI from the track they generated the score from.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

You need to filter out the offending frequencies with an EQ. If the kick is muddy along with the bass, you will need to decide which one will occupy that frequency spectrum. More often than not, the low end is a delicate area when it comes to mixing.

you might also want to check the level and placement of your subwoofer. That alone could give you a false sense of bass and throw off your entire mix.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

You could have just created a mapped staff in Logic and added SD3’s notes into it. Far simpler to implement.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Bear-Faced Cow]

No probs. Also, you might want to use the Logic Drum Designer Map in SD3 to ensure the correct playback.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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