Bear-Faced Cow
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Bear-Faced CowTry beat-mapping the drum audio track in Logic to create a tempo map first. Then use SD3’s tracker to create your drum MIDI. The tempos should be close enough that using “Follow Host” in SD3 will keep pretty much keep them in line.
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Thanked by: lewisbBear-Faced CowThe standalone is only a wrapper for the plug-in, so if something has changed, it’s on the DAW end. And, like I said, I use SD3 in both standalone and within Logic and there is zero difference.
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Bear-Faced CowHi,
you can always select a channel with one library and preset loaded and then go to ‘Channel Effects’ and ‘Save As…’ then switch to your other Library and recall that Channel Effects preset.
The User Channel Effects presets can be organised in folders and subfolders in the Finder/Explorer via the same Menu.
BR,
John
John please tell me this was recently introduced. I’ve been clamouring for this feature for the longest of time only to find it under my nose.
This is going to save me tons of time on a drum mix!
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Bear-Faced CowSomething has to be different between the two. On a fresh Logic project, any of the snares I have chosen sound no different than standalone. Perhaps, post your Logic project so we can have a peek.
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Bear-Faced CowMIDI is just a bunch of note data depicting which articulations are triggered. It has nothing to do with any kit itself.
If you haven’t changed any of the mappings, it should be exported as an extended General MIDI file to which most apps could use straight away. Aside from a few articulations, he should have no real problem applying kit pieces. If he’s applying it through Logic, he probably already has a software instrument set up, since MIDI doesn’t make any sounds. You’re not doing any real favours splitting it up. In fact, if he wants to do that, he can take your file in Logic and explode it into several regions with a single key command.
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Thanked by: roland ratBear-Faced CowIf you hear sounds normally on your drum brain when playing fast, then I am willing to bet that you are wasting your money buying a new harness, unless you feel more comforted having a spare. Your drum brain will play and transmit what it picks up. The fact that you have already indicated that you can audibly hear it is more proof that it probably is not your cable. I highly doubt the USB port on your drum brain is bad, but there is always that possibility.
That would lead to the chain to your computer. Just because you enabled safe mode doesn’t mean that you have eliminated everything that could be stealing from it. MIDI lag could be from something as subtle as the SpotLight daemon and too much hard disk traffic, to an underlying launchdaemon using CPU stealing technologies such as Java. I’ve had similar issues running other MIDI controllers (remember that a eDrums are nothing more than a MIDI controller to a computer) and had to find everything getting in the way.
As I said, providing some specs on your computer and your chain might provide some insight. Otherwise, it’s hard to help.
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Bear-Faced CowIt doesn’t sound like latency. Latency is more constant and is more buffer related. This seems more like a processing bottleneck preventing CoreMIDI from receiving the information in a timely manner.
Need more information on your MBP along with anything else that might be hooked up to it. There may be also be some underlying processes stealing resources holding back your drum information from being read.
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Bear-Faced CowThis could be dependent on the preset that you are using. Some of the FX will produce noise as part of their gain structure. ZIP your Logic project (remove any audio tracks) and post it so we can have a look.
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Bear-Faced CowSave your kits as a user preset. It will contain your settings.
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Thanked by: monospaceBear-Faced CowTrust me, how I wound up employed by Apple felt just as comical. However, they recognized my passion as a software developer and gave me all sorts of resources, so I am grateful for the 5 years I was there. Not to mention that they knew how to throw a party back then. LOL!
Despite not really knowing about SD at the time (SD2 wasn’t out yet), I did know Drumkit From Hell. Despite how good it sounded, it didn’t really fit a song that I was writing at the time, so I didn’t go that route. Like I said, it was the Andy Johns kits that kept me in BFD at the time. I even tried to recreate the EQ curves for the main libraries, but it was also the recording chain into the Neve console that made it shine and it made me realize how important it was to get the recording right at the source. I sometimes miss using it these days, but now I have so many great engineers, as well as studios, to choose from as far as drums go. That seems to have a greater importance to me now as I feel my musical tastes feel like they are starting to become a little more eclectic these days.
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Bear-Faced CowI actually had to be dragged over to a Mac kicking and screaming over 30+ years ago, when I suddenly found myself employed by Apple (story in itself). Been a Mac user ever since.
I never owned SD2. I was a long-time BFD user and beta-tester (and was using all sorts of software and hardware prior – never really heard of Toontrack at the time). That’s actually how I met Rail (the Van Halen mixer guy)… aside from mixing great bands, he had a “whacky” idea of creating drum libraries of famous engineers, and when I discovered that the first library to come out was Andy Johns, I found myself getting it and raved about it on the forums which caught Rail’s attention. In time, we were speaking on a regular basis and I helped him put together the back-end of his web site at the time and in return, got more drum libraries from him (Joe Barresi and Jim Scott). He also gave me lots of mixing tips to which I use and share this day.
Based on those drum libraries, my switch to SD3 was a no-brainer. I just had to listen to some of the audio examples to hear music in the drums, rather than bombastic noise (one thing I criticized BFD’s libraries on). Mind you, I was halfway out the door when EZD2 was released (I was already starting to use other drum libraries because they sounded like music)… I was so hooked on the Edit Play Styles feature that I bought it right away. I also like the fact that the plug-ins available inside SD3 are quite good and I have gotten good drum mixes out of them. I also like the fact that they have been listening to us as far as feature requests go. Considering I get a lot of mileage out of this software, I wouldn’t be surprised if I stick with it for a long time.
Mom stories another time… must play some guitar. 😀
jord
Bear-Faced CowOne of the demos in this pack is fairly close to what you’re looking for.
https://www.toontrack.com/product/reggae-beats-midi/
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Thanked by: MagnusVidmoBear-Faced CowYou answered your own question, more or less… it is material dependent because all boiling down to your kit piece choices as well as the how to process them all depends on the song.
If you want a starting point, try re-creating some of your favourite drum mixes, even if it is just for the fun of it. That will not only give you decent starting point for the song you have in mind, but will also provide good practice. If you have difficulty finding a good start, looking to a tutorial such as:
Lots of good ideas in there to start from…
jord
Bear-Faced CowAt the moment, loading EZD projects don’t seem to be possible. I believe it is on the feature request forum.
For now, if you want the MIDI from EZD2 drum track in SD3, you should be able to either drag the the MIDI from EZD2’s track to SD3’s or export the drum track as MIDI and import it into SD3.
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