Bear-Faced Cow
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Bear-Faced CowIt wouldn’t be the same sampling it. You wouldn’t have the velocity or ambience channels. It’s those nuances that count, especially for that song.
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Thanked by: Robin GardnerBear-Faced CowI have approximated this snare sound in the past using the core library with an uptuned 3.5X14 GMS Brass Piccolo stacked with the 2×10″ Sonor and Ringy Snare preset, mixed to taste. For this song, I would send the entire group to gated plate reverb and if you want a little more ring do a parallel send to a distortion channel. That should give you the base sound prior to processing.
Rock Foundry has a Brady Jarrah that will also get you closer to that sound. Would recommend that one over the one in the Progressive Foundry for this purpose.
jord
Bear-Faced CowConsidering the layout of the mixer tab, it is actually quite easy to map the signal flow, as the output and sends or each channel are well labeled. As well, the presets within SD3 have their bus channels descriptively named, which also show up in the output and sends of each channel.
sometimes, the easiest way to understand a particular mix is to turn off the plug-ins and re-enable them one at a time to hear the difference. Once you understand why it was applied, you would then be able to apply it to your own mix. However, it wouldn’t hurt to purchase a few mixing tutorials to see what the experts do. there is always something in them for even the most seasoned engineers.
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Bear-Faced CowLogic doesn’t bounce multichannel instrument outputs by itself. What you would need to do is route your outputs to a bus (or put it in a track stack) and then set up an audio channel with that bus input and record that.
I usually don’t do that type of processing on the routings until I am ready to mix. In most recording cases I will usually use a preset in SD3 (either one of my own or if there’s something suitable within the factory presets).
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Bear-Faced CowYour friend will probably have to create a custom mapping in order for your midi to work properly.
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Thanked by: wilkBear-Faced CowWhen you say “extra added bass drum“ are you referring to a new instrument? If so, that might sound like a bug.
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Bear-Faced CowIf you exported individual kit pieces, then they are exported raw. If you wish to export your affects, then you should route your kit pieces to multiple output channels and export them.
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Thanked by: Lucashockley14Bear-Faced CowChanging a groove in the groove editor will only save that particular instance of that groove in your track. It does not save it back to the user grooves area, because in a sense you have created a new groove out of it. You would have to save your newly edited groove back to the user grooves area as a new groove.
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Bear-Faced Cow25GB after you installed the core library? The full library is 263GB.
You may be leaving your computer in a resource starved situation. The MIDI update install works for me because I have used it twice already.
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Bear-Faced CowYour last screen shot on the other thread indicated that you did not install the update within the product manager. You only downloaded it
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Bear-Faced CowI can see where certain kick samples would work for tom attack, but I couldn’t see myself replace the tom outright. If anything, I have been able to take care of issues with various toms with EQ to get what I need to sit in a mix, SD3 being no exception. Beyond that, I will bring it out with some compression, or if I want something more modern, I will reach for a transient shaper.
Of course my first rule of thumb is to ensure that I am using the proper kit for the sound I’m after.
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Bear-Faced CowThat is one hell of a story. I can’t say I’ve had anything that exciting. The only time we’ve had the police come was back in the early 90’s when we forgot to shut the basement door when we were rehearsing. They thought we just had the stereo loud and didn’t believe that it was us playing. Despite the visit, it felt good for our egos at the time.
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Bear-Faced CowConsidering the bands mentioned by the OP, I don’t recommend parallel compression in this case. What matters more in a classic rock mix as pertaining to toms is the EQ curve. Generally, you will be working to bring out the lows for the thud and the upper-mids to get the whack of the stick, while suppressing the lo-mids. I usually follow that with the Comp76 compressor in SD3 (or UAD’s 1176 if I’m routing directly into Logic) very mildly, balancing both the EQ and compression as the compressor will help keep the lo-mids suppressed while taming the transients and adding a certain color to the toms. Also keep in mind that the music of that era was recorded to tape. Thus, you’re going to want to experiment with certain types of saturation. The tape plug-in is okay, but it’s definitely more of a caricature of tape than a reproduction. I will often output my drum mix to UAD’s Studer tape plug-in, with the possibility of a UAD Neve 33609 before it for some added punch.
As well, the drums in those bands are rather dry, so you don’t want any far ambiences. You mainly want overhead and near ambient channels. In the classic rock cases pertaining to the bands mentioned, you’ll build your mix with the OH and close mics and then tuck a little bit of the near ambient channels underneath.
And yes, the raw kit pieces are boring… I’m sure experience has taught you that all unprocessed drums are boring. However, I will also disagree in that the toms in any of the packs I own are not unusable by any stretch. I have worked with far worse throughout the years.
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Thanked by: bobbyharlowBear-Faced CowI’ll keep this one short, mainly because even though the Joe Barresi Evil Drums pack is available for Superior Drummer, I wasn’t using SD 10 years ago when I recorded this song. Up until SD3, both this along with the Andy Johns pack became my most used packs for reasons mentioned earlier. As well, those packs are both put out by Platinum Samples, which is (or at least was at the time) owned by Rail Jon Rogut and Shivaun O’Brien. To complete the story, Rail is the VH engineer (my bad – he didn’t do Balance), with plenty more to his name, I was talking about, and have known for well over a decade. Super great guy, like I said.
I wrote that song 10 years inspired by a martial arts injury that was getting progressively worse, debilitating me forcing me to put an end to my martial arts studies, just shy of going for my 2nd degree black belt. The opening was actually written after I wrote the rest of the song. It was inspired by my fascination with Southern Country Blues artists such as Mississippi John Hurt and Mance Lipscome. I love playing all kinds of music on guitar, and have many guitar heroes.
While you are there, I have a growing list of songs that I have been remixing with SD3 and posting. I have often toyed with the idea of doing that one, but in this case, I don’t think I could add anything to it.
jord
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