Why is there no plug in to fix phase?

[Daniel Beroff]

Hi. Love superior drummer 3 but couldn’t help wondering: why is there no plug in to alter phase? I know I can advance the samples to help get my mics pretty tightly in phase, but I really wish I could go that extra level and mess with an all pass filter to get even closer. Perhaps SD should also have phase correlation meters.

Obviously I can do this on my DAW but I’d prefer to have sd3 standalone.

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[Robert Paten]

There is button to flip the phase in SD3. I believe you can do it on the channel strip and on the instrument bleed

[Daniel Beroff]

I know about flipping the phase 180 degrees. I meant a plug in such as an all- pass filter to alter phase less than 180.

[Mark King]

So you find the sd3 drums are out of phase?

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[Daniel Beroff]

Not specifically sd3. ALL drum recordings involving more than one microphone have phasing issues. That’s the unavoidable physics at work. Each mic picks up a different version of the sound, which itself evolves. What Can be done internally is offsetting the mics so they arrive at “the same time”  What superior Cannot do is actually alter the phase.

Check out voxengo pha979 or waves “in phase” plug ins for example. Once your drums are recorded, they can alter not only timing but actual phase.

I just wondered why toontrack didn’t include this very very necessary type of plug in

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