What is *this* Hi-Hat articulation named in Superior Drummer?

[E T]

Justin Timberlake’s Senorita. At 24s you hear that open to closed hi-hat hit (the close is often heard in time with the snare hit, but not in this example).  Very common thing with drums.

I’m not a drummer, so don’t know what this is called amongst drummers (hat trap??).

Can it be done in SD3? How can it be achieved? — I was thinking to use an open hi-hat and then choke it (how?), but that is not life-like and not the same as this real-life drum technique.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Gert van Duinen]

It’s the choke sound you’re referring.

the open sound can be achieved with the hi-hats slightly open while hitting with the shoulder of the stick.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

[E T]

Right, a choke. At least now I know how to refer to it.

I’m not sure which part of the stick can be directed in the plugin. But there’s certainly plenty of open Hi-Hat samples on offer.

I guess I could use a closed hi-hat to choke the open one, and mute the closed hi-hat hit so that it only chokes and doesn’t sound.

 

 

[Gert van Duinen]

I don’t exactly know how to recreate the sound in the software itself. I only know how to get it in the software while actually playing with the hi-hats closed (usually tip of the stick) and then slightly and quickly lifting my toes on the pedal in order to “loosen” the closed hats to create that choking sound.

There are more ways to achieve half-open or open sounds even with only using the foot without a hit with the stick.

[tama42]

Hi e t what you are taalking about is this sound at the beginning of this song.   https://youtu.be/xspAsRR1sTE  It is. Actually raising the hi hat. Hittng it. And.  The bass drum at the same time now doing it inn sp3 not sure but with my kit (btw i am a drummer) i use 2 hi hats maain on right aux on left for dbl base what i found out was when i use the aux hi hats main makes that sound you are looking for but besides that i would go thru my midi channels and find thatt sound and if you do remember this  accent the base drum to sell it hope this helps

kenneth smit

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)

[Bear-Faced Cow]

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Can it be done in SD3? How can it be achieved? — I was thinking to use an open hi-hat and then choke it (how?), but that is not life-like and not the same as this real-life drum technique.

The term I believe you’re referring to is a “bark”. You would use one of the open articulations, depending on the song itself (I’m usually using an Open Edge 4 for my stuff) followed by either by a Close Pedal articulation or a tight tip or edge articulation, depending on the groove.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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[roland rat]

Or is it a Purdey?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.1.4
Operating system: Windows 10

[Nicholas DiFabbio]

Hi hat manipulation by a good player is extremely individualistic and virtually impossible to program to sound natural because natural has infinite variation and nuance. The best you can do is to edit hit by hit the articulations and velocity. A more reasonable approach is to program a measure or two and use it throughout. I’ve also found that by adding fills, each one has a slightly different hi hat approach, this can help give the illusion of reality. I sometimes just play and record a real hi hat track.

[Bear-Faced Cow]

It can be programmed to sound natural enough using a MIDI CC curve and knowing how certain drummers manipulate their hi-hat. It’s pretty much an art form. Not to mention that in a recording and a mix, most of those infinite variations get lost.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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