What do the “Kick In” and “Kick Out” channels in the mixer represent?

[Chris Morris]

Hi there,

I’m confused as to what these channels represent in Superior Drummer. They sound like they could be two different mics for the kick on playback but the names don’t seem to represent that. Also, in what situation would I want to limit or eliminate mic bleed? That’s a cool option in SD 3 – but where would I use it? For tighter drums, like in death metal?

Thanks,

Chris

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[Scott]

Kick In is a microphone inside the Kick drum aimed at the beater. It picks up the snap and attack. Kick out is outside the Kick. It’s more natural and has less attack and a bit more low end.

Lowering or eliminating bleed is useful for tightening up the drum sound. It also can help solve mixing problems. For example, the hi hat bleeds into the snare Mic channel. If I feel I need to compress or eq the snare to get the sound I want, it may also makes the hi hat sound terrible. I can lower or eliminate the bleed in the snare in S3, thus making processing the snare easier.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Chris Morris]

Another question: The “comp” track routes out through 1/2 in multi-channel mode just like the kick tracks but it sounds like it has the entire kit going through it. Is that correct? So, in Pro Tools if I set up different channels for the different outs in multi-channel mode, then I am going to have a compressed full kit routed into my kick channel. Is that correct?

[Chris Morris]

@Scott said:
Kick In is a microphone inside the Kick drum aimed at the beater. It picks up the snap and attack. Kick out is outside the Kick. It’s more natural and has less attack and a bit more low end.

Lowering or eliminating bleed is useful for tightening up the drum sound. It also can help solve mixing problems. For example, the hi hat bleeds into the snare Mic channel. If I feel I need to compress or eq the snare to get the sound I want, it may also makes the hi hat sound terrible. I can lower or eliminate the bleed in the snare in S3, thus making processing the snare easier.  

Thank you for clearing that up Scott!

[Scott]

@cmorris975 said:
Another question: The “comp” track routes out through 1/2 in multi-channel mode just like the kick tracks but it sounds like it has the entire kit going through it. Is that correct? So, in Pro Tools if I set up different channels for the different outs in multi-channel mode, then I am going to have a compressed full kit routed into my kick channel. Is that correct?  

In that scenario then yes. But yu can re-route it somewhere else if you want. I would route it somewhere else personally.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Chris Morris]

Yep – that’s what I was thinking as well. Thanks again.

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