refaelokHello ..
I have multiple issues that if found all of them related eventually to the issue with low volume of Superior Drummer 3.
I have Interface Audio TASCAM, recommended by response to other topic here with same issue that said it will solve the issue ( but is not )
The issue is that:
When i open some kit in Superior Drummer 3, the volume of the kit are low relative to that i put the volume on maximum in the interface audio.
if I play for example a song in YouTube, my hears can blow, but with Superior Drummer 3 the volume are very low, what make it difficult also play along the song in high volume.
Now i know most the answers due to i read everything can be found on internet regarding this issue, and i found this issue is already years in this software and still not handled.
The common answer was:
Increase the overall db volume or for each pad- this is not solution, it cause to other tail hiss and noise.
There is some fix to that issue ?
I didnt except this software to behave like that after pay some good amount of money on it.
refaelokI found something useful to describe and isolate the issue.
i attached an image of windows volume mixer, in 1 section i play a song on youtube, next to it you can see the volume of Superior Drummer 3.
what played in superior ddrummer 3 in that point i took this shot is consist snare on max hit (127) velocity.
It now make sense why im hear it low, the issue is with the output of the program.
I accept from the strongest hit on snare to be on maximum volume, or at least above the half of the bar in the volume mixer.
( Please do not suggest to take db in superior drummer above 0db, this is not a soltuion due to it casue to other issues with tail hiss )
I think this is a bug that need to be fixed, any suggestion what I can do ?
Edit: Actually even when i push it up with increase the db to +12db the mixer increase but the sound still low.
Mark KingI don’t find it too quiet. I load in Cubase and it’s just as loud as other vsti. I use it standalone to play my edrums and can get plenty of volume so I’m not getting your problem. Also probably why you are not getting replies
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Gio LocatelliMake sure you’re not sending the software instrument midi controller 11 (expression)
that is used by some vsti’s as a “plugin” volume, as opposed to midi cc7 which is fader volume.
no problems on my rig, if I turn it up too loud it’ll rip my head off.
I can hit the clip levels on my interface of some hard hits (note velocity 127)
keep in mind too that if you play something from YouTube or Spotify or whatever, you’re listening to a mastered track. You’ll need to add compressors and limiters to get your track to their mastered level. I usually bring down streaming services -5 to -10db to give me some headroom, when playing/rehearsing along with my plugins.
good luck.
refaelokThanks for answer, Im jealous of you that it work for you 🙂
Regarding the youtube song it was just example of how low i heared that in compare to other programs on my computer.
the issue is still even if i play the drums stand alone, I put the volume on maximum but it still not low, and can be heared only on the strongest hit ( 127 ).
Other Thing you mention is that to add a compress, actually it did add the volume after i play with that sometime, but it seems make the qulity lower, due to the tail hiss and noises after the hit is more noticeable now.
More one thing i notice, most of the persons that say that it work to them as expected, they are persons who use Cubase or other Software and use Superior Drummer 3 as plugin, but I think I paid enough to SD3 to make it work as expected as standalone program.
refaelokI don’t find it too quiet. I load in Cubase and it’s just as loud as other vsti. I use it standalone to play my edrums and can get plenty of volume so I’m not getting your problem. Also probably why you are not getting replies
Actually there is a lot of persons with that issue, search in google “Superior Drummer 3 low volume”, infinite discussions on it.
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Thanked by: dan crawfordMark KingThere are lots and they tend to not understand drums or how to use SD3. Most are that the drums in the core library lack a real hard hit but this isn’t volume. I also use SD3 standalone to practice with and it’s well loud enough without me having to push anything hard. Remember it is extremely dynamic and the sounds are not processed. I take it you have found the volume button bottom right?
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
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Thanked by: Brad
Bear-Faced CowMark hits it on the head. If you are using the Clean Kits, this is due more to unprocessed dynamics. Raw drums require lots of overhead in order to ensure all transients and frequencies are retained. Lots of overhead means a lower volume as a result. In order to attain more volume, you need to flatten the dynamics as well as carve out unwanted frequencies in order to make a kit sit better in a mix.
jord
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Thanked by: Brad
Ola GrönlundHow do you adjust the volume in SD3?
I have Roland Td 27 and when I hit the pads on my drums i barely can hear it, but when I hit the triggers it sounds great.
Mark KingYou need to see what velocities you are recording g in the midi. If you are not hitting 127 on hard hits then the sensitivity on your module is not set correctly. After that if you want a more compressed dynamic range you can change the velocity curves.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
KentaviousI’m not “techy” enough to figure out the actual source of the problem but I have figured out a way around it. I’m triggering a TD-30 and recording in Studio One. What I do to get the extra volume is to add an EQ to the post-out inserts of your monitor channel (which may be your headphone channel). Use the EQ to boost the gain on the monitor which will raise the volume of everything and then lower the volumes of all the other channels you are monitoring except the channel with SP3. You might have to adjust it a few times to get the balance but now the drums will be louder. Your recording input level will remain the same. Only your monitor output volume will be affected.
Dan McCarthyMark King – I’m sorry we don’t all have your incredible genius, you insufferable arsehole.
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Thanked by: davetcg and dan crawfordMark KingReported your post.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
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