total grooves with all inEZdrummer 3 latin percussion and cuban latin percussion

[klaasbrus]

I can’t get total salsa groove with congas bongo and timbalas in EZdrummer 3 latin percussion and cuban latin percussion. I compose salsa songs And I would like to start with rithm grooves with all the instrumens and leave than a lot out . Did I buy the wrong program

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[Mick Avoidant]

There’s a new Salsa drum midi pack https://www.toontrack.com/product/salsa-grooves/ Listen to the audio preview to see if the grooves are what you want.

[Mick Avoidant]

Did you set the kit to either of the Latin EXPs?

[klaasbrus]

Thanks for your reply. I bought EZ3 Latin Percussion and cuban latin percussion. So I need the cuban drums as well? I don’t use drums in our band just percussion conga’s timbales and bong /bell/ quiro.

[Scott]

Have you loaded with the Latin Percussion EZX or the Latin Cuban Percussion EZX from the library drop-down menu in the EZD3 interface?

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[klaasbrus]

I bought both because of the many difference of salsa between in South America. But till so far I have difficulties building up the different kind of instruments, In the grooves you only have very often the conga’s alone not with bongo or bell. And that’s a strange because conga’s alway should be in there. I don’t want to use drums just the percussion but thebn preferably complete.

 

Thanks for your help so far

Klaas

[Mick Avoidant]

I said ‘Salsa drum midi pack’. That’s what you need for salsa beats.

[Scott]

You can use multiple instances of EZD3Z in your DAW and build multiple percussion parts (one for conga, one for bongo, one for shaker, etc). You can’t have multiple Song Tracks in one instance of each playing a different instrument.

You can also use the Grid Editor and write your instrument parts by hand if you’re looking for something specific.

You can also drag multiple grooves on top of each other in the Song Track timeline and build a percussion part like that. Then tweak them in the editor.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Scott]

Mick Avoidant wrote:

I said ‘Salsa drum midi pack’. That’s what you need for salsa beats.

The Salsa MIDI pack is for drums and not percussion instruments like the OP wants.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[klaasbrus]

Yes I listened at the drum salsa midi pack, But I don’t need the drums. Latin drums sounf entirely different from the percussion.  I need the  percussion basic ritmes

[klaasbrus]

Dear Scot,

Thanks for your reply. I uderstand that. But there is as fas I can see no systematic ordening oag the ritme. I don’t see the connections with the different instruments for a ritme as salsa (bell patern, conga patern, timbales patterns, 3/2 clave or 2/3 clave)

It’s very hard for to build this up.

 

I hope we can find some kind of a solution for this

Thanks for your help

[Scott]

There may not be exact patterns for every possible rhythms in Latin music. The grooves included are just a start I suppose. You may need to manually write the exact patterns you need in the groove editor in EZD3.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[klaasbrus]

Thank you for your reply.

the main problem is that the percussion section is not complete with the different tpes of styles. In a some you miss the conga patern. in other styles the timbales.It would be an idea to get the right latin names for the styles and group them together. This is a kind of search and find.

 

Thanks for your time

[sarcher1228]

Scott said
“You can also drag multiple grooves on top of each other in the Song Track timeline and build a percussion part like that. Then tweak them in the editor.”

I have tried dragging a groove on top of a groove already in the song, and it replaces rather than adds to the groove. Is there a way to get drag and mix the two grooves so you can build up a more complex pattern?  (Eg. Where the instruments that are incoming from the new groove are added to the instruments already playing in the original groove on the timeline)

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

[rixa]

sarcher1228 wrote:

Scott said
“You can also drag multiple grooves on top of each other in the Song Track timeline and build a percussion part like that. Then tweak them in the editor.”

I have tried dragging a groove on top of a groove already in the song, and it replaces rather than adds to the groove. Is there a way to get drag and mix the two grooves so you can build up a more complex pattern?  (Eg. Where the instruments that are incoming from the new groove are added to the instruments already playing in the original groove on the timeline)

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

Have you tried to right-click > copy on the groove and then right-click on the MIDI on the song track > Paste on Selected Groove?

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[sarcher1228]

Good point. “Paste on Selected Groove” almost does it, but let’s say the incoming new groove has several instruments playing. If you say paste “all” instruments, it erases all the instruments from the original selected groove instead of only adding the new instruments. (Instead of pasting all, you can, of course, paste one instrument at a time, which works well, but obviously takes more steps.)

The other thing that takes more steps is getting the new groove into the song so you can then mix it with the selected groove. A drag and drop flow would work great, eg drag from the search results area and place it on top of the selected groove, but just add rather than erase the original instruments. Maybe triggered by holding a key while you drag?  Curious if that exists.

EZdrummer version: 3.0.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

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