Time Signature display issues

[fstrat76]

This is hard to explain. Using 3.1.1 standalone.

As I add time signatures closer to the end of song track, scrolling further to the right, the measure numbers on the song track restart at measure one.

For example, I put a 4/4 signature on measure 143. My next time signature is at 177. I need to scroll to that position to add a new time signature.

When I scroll to 177, the measures display reset to 1, and I can never find 177 because the measure numbers have all changed.

It seems that when a prior time signature scrolls off the the “left” edge of the screen, that is when the measure numbers reset to 1.

In addition, if there is a block on the track, and I try to edit the grid, the measure numbers do not match at all.

Ideas?

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[John]

Hi,

this is a bug that the team has picked up and it is on the to-fix-list. I have no ETA, though.
Thank you for reporting.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[fstrat76]

How can anyone possibly create a song with any time signature change using the song track? Not to mention, when using a host, the Follow Host option does not follow the host time signature.

Is there a workaround?

[Henrik Ekblom]

@fstrat76 said:
How can anyone possibly create a song with any time signature change using the song track? Not to mention, when using a host, the Follow Host option does not follow the host time signature.

Is there a workaround?  

The problem is that the host doesn’t tell SD3 the time signature changes until its play head reach the point of the time signature change. This would make the song track in SD3 jump around every time its reaching a time signature change in the host. This is why we made an implementation where the user should set up the time signature changes in SD3 in the same way as the host has its changes – so the timelines match from the start.

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

[fstrat76]

Thanks for the reply.

However, with the bug where the measure numbers get reset as stated in my original post, its not possible to work on the song track.

Can you suggest another workflow until the bug is fixed?

[Henrik Ekblom]

@fstrat76 said:
Thanks for the reply.

However, with the bug where the measure numbers get reset as stated in my original post, its not possible to work on the song track.

Can you suggest another workflow until the bug is fixed?  

Yeah, I can image that the bugs makes it difficult to work.
Options I can think of, until the bug is fixed:
* find the bars where you want to work by moving the playhead in the DAW – since the play head will be positioned in the same place in SD3 to help you navigate
* disable Follow Host, drag the MIDI from the Grooves to SD3 song track, edit it as you like, and then drag it to the DAW for arranging.
All the MIDI will be kept in the SD3 song track, so you can do more edits later and drag it out again, if wanted.

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

[fstrat76]

I’ve tried your suggestions. Option one works somewhat, you have to match time signatures in the DAW and the Song track. Very difficult when there are many time sig changes and you don’t know where you are on the song track timelime.

The second suggestion works sometimes, because for whatever reason, the block from the SD3 song track will drag to the DAW but not drop.

I just purchased SD3 with some MIDI packs. It doesn’t look like this version with all its bugs just is going to work for me.

Can you tell me when these bugs will be fixed?

If not, where can I get a refund?

[Henrik Ekblom]

What DAW are you using?

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

[fstrat76]

Logic Pro X 10.3.1 and 10.3.3.

[Henrik Ekblom]

There should be no problems with dragging a MIDI groove from Superior Drummer 3 into Logic Pro X, so my second tip should work! Can you explain in what situations it doesn’t work to drag the MIDI into Logic?

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

[fstrat76]

Its intermittent. I just got it to “not drop” more than ten times dragging from the song track onto the Logic Arrange window. I’d take a screenshot, but I can’t at the same time as the operation. Basically, you know it won’t drop when the green-circle-plus icon does not appear, then when that happens and you drag back to the song track, it looks like a one-beat transparent outline of the block appears ready to drop back on the song track.

[Henrik Ekblom]

Ok. Do you have any idea of when it starts to behave like that, or can it happen all the time? Like when starting a fresh project, and directly trying to drag a MIDI file from SD3 to Logic Pro X?

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

[fstrat76]

See attached.

1.Note that all blocks on the song track are selected. I can drag but not drop this on a Logic track.

2. If I just select for example, the first 16 measures then drag, sometimes it will drop, other times not. Sometimes if I re-drag, it will allow a drop.

[Henrik Ekblom]

Thanks for the detailed report. I can reproduce that now, and I’ll talk to the coders to find out why it behaves like this! I’ll get back to you when I know more…

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

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