Superior drummer 3 Tracker and Cubase Pro 8.0.40

[KVP]

I am hoping someone can help me out here.
I am using Cubase Pro 8.0.40 and have recorded some drums there. 3 drum tracks. First one in 175 bpm, second one in 165 bpm. They are all in the same project, and i use tempo track in Cubase to get different bpms for the different songs.
Now here`s the problem: Song number 3 was recorded without a metronome because that worked best for that song. So the tempo varies throughout the song. I want to use the brilliant tracker in superior drummer to add some extra kick, snare and toms. I export those files and import them into tracker, everything is fine and the sounds are great. When i have adjusted everything i want to export the midi to have the midi available to blend with the real drums. But when i import the midi to Cubase it doesn`t line up 100% in time. I get a lot of flams.

Can someone please help me explain what would be the correct procedure here to avoid getting flams? I have also tried to analyze the drum audio tracks in Cubase and create a tempo track, then import that tempo track into tracker, but still when exporting and putting back into Cubase i get lots of flams.

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[KVP]

And the find tempo-option i Tracker seems way off. The bpm for the track is around 88-92 bpm. But tracker will analyze the tempo to be 18.6 bpm! Not sure what`s happening there….

[KVP]

Closed down everything now. Restarted and opened up a new instance of Superior drummer. When analyzing the same drum tracks, the tempo is now set to 60 bpm!

What could be causing this?

[John]

Hi Knut,

may I first ask which version number is displayed in the bottom of the SD3 plugin interface?

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Mark King]

I get this also. What I do is quite basic. I put the drum tracker midi part below the real drum part then zoom in and stretch out. I then manually align the first beat. All will then align. Just make sure you stretch out to be as accurate as possible. Not ideal. It a shame in cubase you can’t just drag and drop an audio track into SD3 and then drag the midi out and it all be fine. I’m on the current version of SD3

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[KVP]

@John said:
Hi Knut,

may I first ask which version number is displayed in the bottom of the SD3 plugin interface?

BR,
John  

V 3.1.2

[KVP]

@Mark King said:
I get this also. What I do is quite basic. I put the drum tracker midi part below the real drum part then zoom in and stretch out. I then manually align the first beat. All will then align. Just make sure you stretch out to be as accurate as possible. Not ideal. It a shame in cubase you can’t just drag and drop an audio track into SD3 and then drag the midi out and it all be fine. I’m on the current version of SD3  

That`s what i`ve been doing as well, but after a short while the drum beats will not allign. I am probably doing something wrong, and i am sure this is not a problem at all when the songs are recorded to a fixed tempo/bpm. But it seems to be a problem with the tracker when the tempo of the song is varying up and down.

[Mark King]

The ones I did were free time I think. I’ll take another look.

Just realised you are on an older version of Cubase than I am. I do nothing with tempo,s. I open the audio in tracker and prices it, save as midi and drag into cubase. It never lands in the right place but I can line it up without flams

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[John]

Knut,

if you have made everything line up as you want in Tracker and you export the MIDI, then Import the MIDI Tempo map information into Cubase from the exported Tracker MIDI, doesn’t that work?
You mention the other way around in your earlier post.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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