vsdookieI am using multi out into Logic Pro X and created a summing stack. In the image the summing track is clipping while the other tracks are nowhere near clipping. What can be causing this?
Bear-Faced CowFirst of all, you are not clipping. Busses in Logic are 64-bit Floating Point audio by default, so the headroom would have to be a level where you be deaf long before any digital clipping could occur. +3.7db on the buss in not clipping.
Secondly, you are using a summing stack. It’s combining all of your audio together, or sums it all into a single bus channel. The peaks and valleys of the individivual tracks will either emphasize certain peaks or cancel them out. It is not simple as being as high as your highest individual peak. This is one of the basic aspects of mixing.
Lastly, you are looking at peak readings and not RMS readings. Logic’s display retains the highest point throughout until you reset it. +3.7 doesn’t mean your entire track is constantly at +3.7.
Don’t worry about your track in this respect until it is time to mix it.
jord
vsdookieFirst of all, you are not clipping. Busses in Logic are 64-bit Floating Point audio by default, so the headroom would have to be a level where you be deaf long before any digital clipping could occur. +3.7db on the buss in not clipping.
Secondly, you are using a summing stack. It’s combining all of your audio together, or sums it all into a single bus channel. The peaks and valleys of the individivual tracks will either emphasize certain peaks or cancel them out. It is not simple as being as high as your highest individual peak. This is one of the basic aspects of mixing.
Lastly, you are looking at peak readings and not RMS readings. Logic’s display retains the highest point throughout until you reset it. +3.7 doesn’t mean your entire track is constantly at +3.7.
Don’t worry about your track in this respect until it is time to mix it.
jord
- This post was modified 3 years, 1 month ago by Bear-Faced Cow.
Thanks Bear. What will I have to do when I start mixing? Should I put a limiter on the summing track? I did try lowering the EZDrummer plugin level to -4, But it took a lot of the attack out of the sound.
Bear-Faced CowIt’s hard to tell at this stage. There are a number of factors ranging from your other tracks to the genre of the music. Without listening to the song, I wouldn’t be able to tell you where to start. However, if you are losing some “attack“, you might want to start by lowering everything in your mix and turn up the volume on your audio interface a bit (not too much as you don’t want to damage your hearing as well as affect how you mix everything). For the amount of years that I have been mixing audio, I usually don’t concern myself with the levels until it is time to mix, as long as they are within sane levels, which your appears to be. Just be something comes up slightly in the red, it doesn’t mean that your audio is ruined, unlike the old analog days.
jord
vsdookieIt’s hard to tell at this stage. There are a number of factors ranging from your other tracks to the genre of the music. Without listening to the song, I wouldn’t be able to tell you where to start. However, if you are losing some “attack“, you might want to start by lowering everything in your mix and turn up the volume on your audio interface a bit (not too much as you don’t want to damage your hearing as well as affect how you mix everything). For the amount of years that I have been mixing audio, I usually don’t concern myself with the levels until it is time to mix, as long as they are within sane levels, which your appears to be. Just be something comes up slightly in the red, it doesn’t mean that your audio is ruined, unlike the old analog days.
jord
Thanks again Bear. I will mess will some of the individual levels in EZdrummer. Sound wise, the drums sound great. Of course in a perfect world, if they were at a -3 db that would be better. But all is well. Thanks again for your input.
Bear-Faced CowIf the drums sound great, then it is the perfect world. You’re thinking in the old analog ways. Work on the rest of your tracks and things will start falling into place.
jord
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