Studio Engineers Talking in one of the Kick Drum Samples!!

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  • José Sanguino
    Participant

    I own Legacy of Rock SDX. I have loaded the kit you mention (Modern Radio) and tried playing a series of loooong kick notes on MIDI note 35 (I think that’s the one you’re using) so that it reaches the end of the sample. I have even randomized the velocities and played it back a few times. I can’t hear the voice shown in your video. I thought I might be using the wrong kic k hit (there are three different kick hits), but I moved my MIDI notes from one to another and tried again. No trace of the engineer’s voice you show in your video. Weird.

    The fact that you only hear it every few notes is the round-robin feature. For each velocity level, several different samples are recorded and they alternate, so that if your beat repeats the same hit too often and too quickly, you don’t hear the “machine-gun effect” so dreaded in synth drums. Did you changed anything in the kit? I mean, did you turned up in the mixer any of the room mics or activated a mic which was not present in the original kit? Maybe that’s where the sound comes from. Try making a beat track using the same mixer settings

    Anyway, I’d save that preset with its mixer settings under a different name and send it to Toontrack Support instead of to the forum. Send them the link to your YouTube video, too. I guess they forgot to cut that sample short. I do not think it will affect people’s beats, because from what I’ve seen you do, you are clicking AND holding your mouse for a few seconds, and that way the samples are played in full until the end. When you make a beat, your notes are normally quite short in length, and they aren’t played in full length (except for cymbal hits, I guess). I haven’t been able to reproduce the “voice” myself.


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.4
    Operating system: Windows 10
    Pete Dyball
    Participant

    Thanks for your reply.. I hadn’t changed anything accept I had added a multi band compressor to the main output .. I have since added the far room mics and now I can’t seem to recreate what happened..

    was quite spooky as I just had the drums soloed in my session and was step adding kicks into my midi instrument track in protools.. I’ve finished for the day today but will open when I work tomorrow and see if I can find my session backup from the time I made the video and load it again and try to see if it happens again..

    Cherrs from Australia ✌️

    José Sanguino
    Participant

    OK. Tried a few times more and finally was able to hear it: as you mentioned, the voice is heard, but only through the OH channel, the AMB Near channel and the AMB mid channel. Probably the recording engineer gave some instructions to the drummer through an intercom and its sound was captured by the ambience mics and the overhead mics, but not through the direct kick mics, since these are unidirectional and are pointed at different positions near the kick drum itself. This is something to report to the Toontrack guys themselves. I guess the only way to fix this is to completely remove that sample from the instrument, since I doubt they’ll record that sample again.


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.4
    Operating system: Windows 10
    José Sanguino
    Participant

    Just got in touch with Tech Support. I explained the problem and told them to check the Overhead, AMB near and AMB mid channels for the kick in that particular kit carefully. I guess they’ll find the wrong samples easily and they will have to release an update for the Legacy of Rock SDX library. Let’s hope so.

    Kind regards and thanks for the info.


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.4
    Operating system: Windows 10
    Damian Blunt
    Moderator

    Thanks for the report. We will fix this in the next update (it is Eddie Kramer)

    Damian Blunt - Toontrack
    Quality Assurance
    Betatesting

    Pete Dyball
    Participant

    Thanks for the report. We will fix this in the next update (it is Eddie Kramer)

    Wow it’s Eddie. !! Boom 💥

    do I win a free SDX for finding the Ultimate Easter Egg?? 😂

    Billy 86
    Participant

    Wow. Gotta say it’s pretty cool, Eddie talking from the great beyond… literally, the Overheads…  quite the easter egg!

    SD3, EZD, EZ Keys 1&2, EZ Bass. Win10, i9/9900, all SSDs, 64g RAM, Cakewalk, Studio One

    Pete Dyball
    Participant

    Yes! I think its great actually…!!

    You would be very unfortunate for it to ruin anything and the probability of it playing in your track would be almost Zero..!

    I think I might skip the next update just so I know I have Eddie there in the room 🙂

    Anyways I have worked out how to make this sample play on demand and have linked a short video for those playing along at home

    and who may wish to hear it for themselves.. Enjoy

     


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.2.4
    Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)
    Mark King
    Participant

    Ha brilliant

    SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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