Strange preset mixer settings…?

[Nick Ramsey]

UPDATE: This seems to have been an artifact of an incomplete install. In any case, once the full SSD showed up and I installed it, the problem went away.

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Greetings,

I’ve just upgraded to SD3 from SD2. Great stuff – lots of new things to work with!

I have a question about some strange settings on several of the producer presets. I noticed that cymbals were inaudible in several of them, and the reasons odd. For example, in Andy Sneap Kit 2, 3, and 4 (but not 1 and 5), the “OH Dyn” channel in the mixer is hidden and had its fader all the way down. The “OH Cond” channel is not hidden and has its fader up, but has no mics routed to it. The fix is trivial – just unhide and true up the dynamic. But this leads me to wonder why this is, and whether I’m missing something here.

Another case: In the “Mark Lewis – Metal” preset called “Yam kit” the “OH Dyn” channel is visible and up in the mixer, but all of the “Close Mic Audio from Instruments” faders are all the way down. So, again, no cymbals without fixing this.

So… what’s the deal with these odd settings?

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[Henrik Ekblom]

Nice to hear you got it sorted out. What version of Superior Drummer 3 are you using? I ask because we know about this issue, it can be confusing if you don’t have all the Sound Library parts installed, and we have added some information about this in the Superior Drummer 3 mixer.

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

[Nick Ramsey]

Currently it is “Superior Drummer 3 plug-in version 3.0.3 (build 18723) [64-bit AU]”

When I originally posted, it would have been whatever update the Product Manager suggested as of around a week ago when I originally installed it and when through the update cycles. But I had only installed the “core sound library” and not the additional mics, bleeds, etc.

[Henrik Ekblom]

Ok! Since the first release we have added some information in the Bleed and Close Mic level, that says if the audio is installed or not… So if there are bleed controllers that doesn’t contain any audio (happens if the Bleed installation pack isn’t installed), then the header in the Bleed property box in the Mixer will say that. Did you see that in SD3?

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

[Nick Ramsey]

Yes – it did indeed say “No mics routed” in the bleed box for the OH Cond channel.

But it was still confusing to me at the time, since it wasn’t clear that there really ARE pics routed as part of the preset, but these just weren’t installed. Perhaps some verbiage in the direction of “bleed mics not installed” or “mics not found” or something that gives a clearer directive that something is not configured in a way that is compatible with that preset. Maybe even a warning upon loading the preset that would help make sense of the current messages in the bleed box?

Again – I’ve resolved all this on my machines, so I’m just spitballing ideas in hopes that it might help someone else in this situation. I have no idea what complications are under the hood, etc., so take these comments for whatever they’re worth…

By the way – it’s great of you as a company to be so responsive to the issues of your users!

[Henrik Ekblom]

Ah, ok, I see where the confusion comes from. If you take a look at my screenshot, in the “Bleed from Instruments” box on the right side, the header says “Not Installed/Found”, but the information on the OH Cond channel itself says “No Mics Routed”…

We may need to make the text on the channel itself a bit clearer… We’ll look at it and see what we can do about it. Thanks for the feedback!

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

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