Strange note mapping in Funkmasters

[Will]

Just got Funkmasters and found a strange note mapping issue. My TD-9 is set up so that when I load up any of my other EZX’s and select the EDrums mapping, everything works fine. But when I load either Funkmaster kit and select the EDrums mapping, my first position crash triggers the first (only) crash in the kit when I hit the head zone, but the crash’s rim zone triggers the ride cymbal. Also, my second position crash does the opposite: head triggers ride and rim triggers kit’s single crash.

Yes, I know I can customize the mapping and save it as a user preset, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t doing anything wrong first.

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[John]

Hi,

if I read you right, you have made small adjustments in your TD-9 which means it isn’t at Factory settings?
I also presume you are loading the EZX:s in Superior 2, where you select the MIDI Preset ‘E-drums’, instead of loading EZX:s in EZdrummer and use the ‘E-drum’ MIDI controller function in Toontrack solo?
I suggest you take a look at user ‘godprobe’s’ excellent spreadsheet found in this thread:
http://www.toontrack.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=97524&mpage=1
It will most likely give you a lead on the note mis-mapping if you check the note numbers you dialed in in your module.

Best Regards,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[godprobe]

fwiw, I checked it out in Superior here and the Funkmasters E-Drum mapping (at least as much as seemed pertinent) seems to correspond 1-to-1 with the default Superior mapping (and so, 1-to-1 with the spreadsheet).

what’s uniquely interesting about the Funkmasters kits is that the crash cymbal *does* have a “ride” articulation, and vice versa.  I’m wondering if that’s where you *might* be getting the impression of a mixup, but I don’t know what notes you have your TD-9 set up to send.

WinXP | Fireface 800 | Variax | Axe-Fx | Toontrack | Komplete | Reaper http://www.godprobe.com/projects/notemaps/

[Will]

While that spreadsheet is both useful and impressive(!), the mapping it covers is the default mapping and not the E-Drums mapping, right? So, it doesn’t quite cover what I’m talking about. And no, it’s not the articulation name “Ride” that’s throwing me. I’m watching the animated hits and it’s triggering the ride cymbal, not the ride articulation of the crash.

For my first position crash, the TD-9 is sending:

Rim: 55
Head: 49

In the Pop/Rock, Vintage, and Jazz EZX’s, when I select the E-Drums mapping:

55 triggers the first position crash (crash articulation)
49 triggers the first position crash (crash articulation) (same as 55)

In the Funkmasters EZX, when I select the E-Drums mapping:

55 triggers the ride (crash articulation)
49 triggers the first position crash (crash articulation)

I can see maybe why TT decided to map Funkmasters that way, given that there’s only one crash and that one crash has more articulations than in the other EZX’s (which is great!), so maybe I’m thinking less like it’s a bug. 🙂

There is one unfortunate thing though, that I think is going to require that I make user presets with custom mappings. Let’s say that I want to be able to switch between the Funkmasters kits and the other EZX’s. When I play the Funkmaster kit I want:

1. Crash rim: crash (crash articulation)
2. Crash head: crash (ride articulation)

But when I play the other EZX’s (that don’t have a ride articulation for the crash) I want:

1. Crash rim: crash (crash articulation)
2. Crash head: crash (crash articulation)

This is a pretty reasonable desire. In most EZX’s the crash is just the crash, no matter how I hit it (since that’s the only articulation they have) and in the Funkmasters I have the ability to play its ride articulation by hitting the head zone. The problem is that there is no mapping that let’s me switch between those two effortlessly. In other words, none of the midi notes assigned to the ride articulation of the crash in Funkmasters play the crash articulation of the crash in the other EZX’s. That’s not very good. In fact, I’m lucky that I have Superior that let’s me even do a custom note mapping, because it seems that if I only had EZ Drummer, I would have to change the midi note assignment on the TD-9 every time I switched to Funkmasters. Yuck.

[Will]

Further info:

I reset my TD-9 to the factory defaults. The default midi notes for the 1st position crash are:

Rim: 55
Head: 49

So, it turns out that I had not actually changed those from the default. This means that with a stock TD-9, if you load up the funkmasters and select the edrums mapping, the 1st position crash will play:

Rim: ride cymbal (crash articulation)
Head: crash cymbal (crash articulation)

instead of what it should play:

Rim: crash cymbal (crash articulation)
Head: crash cymbal (ride articulation)

This is a bug that should be addressed, no?

Or is the TD-9’s default note mapping strange in some way?

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