Sound mixing help

[justinchow]

Hey all,

I need help with sound mixing in Ezd3. I have the Prog ezx and i really like the default dw kit. It sounds exactly what i want. However, i wanted a bigger kit, so i got the fusion ezx, for the added octobans. The problem is, that i obviously can’t just add the octos to the prog kit, so i had to map the sounds to the fusion kit, and doing so i lost the nice sounding dw kit from the prog mix. However to i make the fusion kit sound the same? The bass had a nice rich and full sound versus the fusion mixes. Is there a way to transfer them over?

TIA

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[Mick Avoidant]

I have both EXPs and have loaded Prog’s DW kick into Fusion. Its sound goes with it, hopefully well enough for your liking. Click on each one, and change it in the menus I’ve outlined.

 

[justinchow]

Thanks, that’s what i did. I mapped everything over from prog to fusion. But the kit just sounds different, and i like the way it sounds using the dw kit.

[Mick Avoidant]

Wrong word. Mapping is setting which MIDI note triggers which drum.

Each EXP has its own tone settings; you won’t get an exact match between them. If you’re working in a Digital Audio Workstation, you can fiddle with the tones, by routing each drum to its own channel and loading an equaliser into each of them.

[justinchow]

Oh i see, i guess i’ll have to do that. I was just curious if i could get the same-ish tones from one to the other. I guess i can output the clean kit sounds and use an equalizer.

Is there any recommendation for equalizers?

[Bear-Faced Cow]

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We are talking about two kits recorded in two different studios by two different producers, using two different recording chains and techniques. They will not sound the same.

What you are best to do is use two separate instances of EZ Drummer. One for the kit that you want, and the other for the octobans,

If you had Superior Drummer you could use the ambience stealing trip on the octobans. But that would be the closest you could get. It’s possible that you could fake it in a DAW using a convolution reverb.

jord

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[Mick Avoidant]

Start with whatever equaliser your DAW has. You could sink a lot time into finding ‘that’ tone, time that you might be better putting into making music.

[Bear-Faced Cow]

I guess i can output the clean kit sounds and use an equalizer.

An EQ will not work in this case as it doesn’t create tone. It can only shape what is there.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[Shootie]

Jord has the best answer. Just takes a bit of busy work. Two instances of EZ in a DAW at the same time.

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[justinchow]

Thanks, i was hoping to avoid that, but i guess it’s really the best answer… everything else would convoluted… only other option is maybe upgrade to SD3 and use the Area 33 Origins, but no guarantees that it’ll have the same tones that i’m looking for

[Bear-Faced Cow]

You can fake the convolution reverb by using an ambience track from a bright snare of the prog library as an impulse response. From there, you can feed the octobans into the reverb and the use a bit of EQ to shape it.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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[Mick Avoidant]

SD3 can load EZD expansions and can add drums and so on, as extras. You could load Prog and then bring in the octobans.

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

Thanks, i was hoping to avoid that, but i guess it’s really the best answer…

Good mixes take work. There is no such thing as a hit record plug-in.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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[justinchow]

I’m not sure i totally follow, aren’t the kit sizes still fixed on SD3? So even if i did load Prog ezx in sd3, the kit size is still fixed so i wouldn’t have enough inputs to map the octos in the prog ezx. I took a quick look, and the tone mapping’s a lot more flexible, maybe i’m missing something

[Mick Avoidant]

You can add to any kit in SD3. You can have your DW drums and octobans, as shown.

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