Sound in Tracker different than MIDI to VST with the same kit

[rj123456]

Dear forums,

I’m new, so please forgive my ignorance.
I’ve imported drum tracks in the Tracker and fine-tuned the triggers. It sounds wonderful. However, now I want to reproduce the sound in my DAW, and I can only see an option to export the MIDI track. So, I did that, and used the SD3 VST3 plugin to recreate the drum sound.

However, it seems that the sound output from Tracker sounds more spacious and overall better.

How can I get that exact sound into my DAW? Is there a way to export the rendered tracks as played by Tracker?

Cheers,
Roel

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 11

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[Brad]

rj123456 wrote:

Dear forums,

I’m new, so please forgive my ignorance.
I’ve imported drum tracks in the Tracker and fine-tuned the triggers. It sounds wonderful. However, now I want to reproduce the sound in my DAW, and I can only see an option to export the MIDI track. So, I did that, and used the SD3 VST3 plugin to recreate the drum sound.

However, it seems that the sound output from Tracker sounds more spacious and overall better.

How can I get that exact sound into my DAW? Is there a way to export the rendered tracks as played by Tracker?

Cheers,
Roel

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 11

Hi there,

Have you dragged the tracks from tracker into the SD3 song track? If yes from there you can export audio or bounce from SD3.

That being said, MIDI is MIDI, it won’t matter if it’s triggering from your DAW or within SD3, it should sound the same.

 

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[Bear-Faced Cow]

It sounds to me like you are hearing both your imported drum audio along with the MIDI drums. Once your get your hits where they should be, you need to lower the imported drum audio to hear what it sounds like in SD3. Once you export your MIDI, you can choose whichever preset to get your drums sounding good.

jord

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[Mark King]

Exactly what I was going to say.

There is another way to get the midi into your DAW if you don’t use the sd3 song track. I use this method when I have a track that was recorded in free time and I’ve done a tempo detect, so the time is constantly changing.

Enable midi out in SD3. Create a midi track with the input of sd3 but no output (you don’t want to create a midi loop) record in real time the midi on the new midi track. Make sure you have sd3 set to follow DAW. Disable midi out and then aim the new midi track at sd3.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

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[rj123456]

Have you dragged the tracks from tracker into the SD3 song track? If yes from there you can export audio or bounce from SD3.

Thank you very much!

I had actually exported using the Bounce feature indeed, but I found the sound much narrower than what I heard in SD3.
However, I exported the left and right channels to separate files, and they were both panned in the center. So panning hard-left and hard-right produces that same spacious sound.

It sounds to me like you are hearing both your imported drum audio along with the MIDI drums. Once your get your hits where they should be, you need to lower the imported drum audio to hear what it sounds like in SD3. Once you export your MIDI, you can choose whichever preset to get your drums sounding good.

That’s a great suggestion indeed. I didn’t clarify this in my initial post either. I turned the “mix” knob all the way to the right. Should I lower the volume of the imported drum audio instead or would the mix knob suffice?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: Windows 11

• This post was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by rj123456.

[John]

rj123456 wrote:

I turned the “mix” knob all the way to the right. Should I lower the volume of the imported drum audio instead or would the mix knob suffice?

When auditioning on the Tracker page, turning the Mix knob on a track all the way to the right, lets you hear the SD3 sound only.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
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