[Sonar] need help

[Alfareese]

Hello,
I got ez drummer for xmas, and now I’m starting to play around with it. If I open in stand alone mode I can hear it and go thru the various groove clips, but if I try to open it in Sonar 6 PEI don’t get any sounds from the interface , I can drag clips but I don’t get any sound from sonar either. Can someone please help?
Thanks
Alfareese

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[playz123]

Re: “Can someone please help?”
— Probably not very much without you telling us more about your settings in Sonar, and a lot more. Saying something doesn’t work is necessary of course, but in order for folks to help you, we need to know what you doing and where you are doing it. BTW, are other VSTi(s) working fine in Sonar, and is it only EZD with which you are having problems? How specifically have you set up EZD in Sonar? Did you go through the installation guide and the manual? What digital audio interface are you using?………..playz

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[Alfareese]

Thanks playz123, I had filled some info out earlier and I guess I thought it would just show up. I’m using Sony Vaio,Windows XP, Sonar 6.2 with an RME fireface 800. I usually record just a few people playing live and I’m using that template. I have the EZDrummer DVD and loaded off of that, Sonar recognized it right away as a VST.  I watched the video and if I open via inserting a soft synth/vst/ezdrummer. It opens the soft synth options and I choose (all synth audio outputs:stereo) and enable midi. This then opens ezdrummer, earlier today I could not get any sounds from the ezdrummer but now I can ie I can preview the groove clips and strike the drums and hear sounds. I am able to drag a clip over to ezdrummer track and it seems to load but no sound.
The input on the track says ezdrummer 1 primary out stereo, the output says master. if I try o play it with the transport I hear nothing. If I change the output to Fireface analog 1/2 (which is where all the live stuff goes to) I still hear nothing..When ezdrummer opens it creates 9 tracks, does it make a difference which track you drag the groove to? Well… I just answered my own question if I drag to the last track (of the ezdrummer tracks) and put a groove there I can do groove clip looping and I now hear the drums, does this sound right to you? I wish I had known to drag to the last track is that written anywhere? If so I guess I missed it.
Please comment on the last track thing, should I have know this? I don’t really do anything with midi so this is new to me.
Thanks
Alfareese

[dysfunction]

Let me get it straight: you can get sound previewing the grooves inside EZdrummer itself, but get no sound when you drag them into the track in Sonar? What it sounds like you’re doing is dragging the midi grooves onto EZdrummer’s audio track, rather than it’s midi track. When you inserted the instance of EZdrummer in Sonar, it should’ve created two tracks inside a track folder (which will have a folder icon); one with an icon that looks like an audio waveform, and one with an icon that looks like a hardware midi port. The latter is the midi track, and you need to drag the midi grooves onto this track.

Core 2 Quad Q6600, 4GB DDR2 RAM @800mhz, WinXP Pro Presonus Inspire S2.0 Rayzoon Jamstix 2 Sonar 8 + Adobe Audition 3

[Alfareese]

Thanks Dysfunction, that is exactly what I was doing. EZdrummer opens up a new folder (Track?) but it has 9 tracks on it and of course the last one has the midi icon and of course that’s the one place I wasn’t dragging anything to, but I think i’ve got it now. Like I said I’ve not used midi before, why all the audio tracks if the only thing making noise is the midi?
Alfareese

[Scott]

why all the audio tracks if the only thing making noise is the midi?

Well, the MIDI isn’t making any noise at all.

Think of it this way.

MIDI is like the cartridge inside an old-fashioned player piano. By itself, the cartridge doesn’t make any sound. It just sits there looking nice but that’s it. When you put it inside the player piano and hit ‘play’ the piano reads the cartridge and reproduces the notes and makes the sound.

MIDI and VSTis work the same way. MIDI is just data (the player piano cartridge). The VSTi (EZD) is the player piano itself that makes the sounds…well, drum sounds of course!

I don’t use Sonar but allow me to extrapolate.

The 8 stereo audio tracks allow for using the multi out function in the EZD mixer (Kick, Snare, Hi hat, etc.) You can route the 8 channels out from EZD into Sonar for additional processing of individual channels (compress the kick, eq the snare, stuff like that).

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[dysfunction]

To add to what Scott said, if you don’t need a multi-out setup, you can just untick ‘Add all softsynth outputs’ in the ‘Insert softsynth options’ page in Sonar. Then inserting EZdrummer will only add the track folder, one audio track, and one midi track.

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[Dave Modisette]

I’d be willing to bet that the OP is dragging his grooves to one of the audio tracks SONAR has created for the multiple outs.  He must drag the midi groove to the midi track that SONAR creates.

If he did not select the option for SONAR to create a midi track it’s possible that there isn’t one for him to drag the clips to. 

In that case, it would be simpler to start over again and toggle the proper selections again.

Dave Modisette www.gatortraks.com www.plasticsamerica.com http://www.gatortraks.com/forum

[Alfareese]

Thanks everyone, I will set it up so I just have the one midi and one audio track, that’s all I need for now. Thanks for the untick  add all softsynth outputs tip, had I done that in the beginning…
Thanks again
Alfareese

[Rogue]

ORIGINAL: dysfunction
To add to what Rogue said

hey leave me out of this, I’m on ‘vacation’ after all 😉

Rogue Marechal - Toontrack
Configuration Manager

[dysfunction]

Sorry- meant Scott. BTW, Scott, I noticed it says you’re from Western MA- I’m from Northampton myself 8)

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[Scott]

^^^^

I’m in Bernardston…just north of Greenfield.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[RandyMorter]

Hey guys, this post got me started. Thanks a lot!

I just got EZ Drummer and can get the tracks dragged into Sonar 8.3.1 okay.

My problem is with the auditioning of grooves in EZ Drummer. Until I drag the midi file into sonar they don’t play sync’d up to the MIDI tempo, nor do they sync to the proper note (i.e., the EZ Drummer demo doesn’t start at beat one or use the same tempo like drum clips do in the loop explorer).

The MIDI light on the EZ Drummer console doesn’t come on either unless it’s playing a midi file that I’ve copied to sonar.

I am using the 64 bit Vista and Sonar. I’ve tried enabling / disabling the sonar midi sync buttons but it doesn’t seem to matter.

Can you help me sync EZ Drummer to Sonar?

Thanks in advance!

Randy

HP e9120y PC w/ AMD Phenom II X4 910 (Quad Core) running at 2.6 GHz, 8G RAM, 7200 RPM 500G recording drive, 5400 RPM 1T OS, Applications & Backup drive, Windows 7 64 Bit, Sonar Producer 8.5.3 64 Bit, PreSonus Project (FireWire) 10 Channel I/O

[Scott]

Are you a using 32-bit version of Sonar or are you using a 64-bit version of Sonar and some bridging utility like Bitbridge? If the latter, I’m not sure what the compatibility is with EZdrummer and the bridging utility. Full 64-bit versions of our products are in the testing stage and should be released soon.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[RandyMorter]

Hi Scott,

I am using a 64 bit version of Sonar. I don’t use any additional bridging utility (Sonar is supposed to have that built in).

It sounded like other users are not having this problem, based on the earlier posts.

If I can be a beta tester for the 64 bit version, especially if it may address my issue, please let me know. I’ve been using drum clips for some time and have grown tired of them and really want to find a different solution to getting drum tracks. But without the ability to sync to Sonar, EZ Drummer just doesn’t work for me.

Randy

(I see my equipment notes weren’t displayed – I have a HP e9120y PC w/ AMD Phenom II X4 910 (Quad Core) running at 2.6 GHz, 8 G RAM, 7200 RPM 500G recording drive, 5400 RMP 1T OS & Backup drive, Vista 64 Bit, Sonar 8.3 64 Bit, PreSonus Project (FireWire) 10 Channel I/O)

HP e9120y PC w/ AMD Phenom II X4 910 (Quad Core) running at 2.6 GHz, 8G RAM, 7200 RPM 500G recording drive, 5400 RPM 1T OS, Applications & Backup drive, Windows 7 64 Bit, Sonar Producer 8.5.3 64 Bit, PreSonus Project (FireWire) 10 Channel I/O

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