Snare Volume randomly much higher at same velocity?

[Hayden Craig]

Sound clip here: https://vocaroo.com/1mXGseQvY418

It’s the same exact MIDI pattern played 5 times. For some reason, on the 4th time around, at around 0:46, the volume is randomly just way higher. Even with my metering, the average peak is around -10db for the whole kit normally, but on that random increase it peaks at almost -4db, which is very strange. The MIDI for the snare hit is not even at 100% velocity, it’s at like 92%. I do have 2 stacked snares but this was happening even before I did that. I do have alternate hits on, but even if I turn it off it will happen. The option for the velocity to better match volume doesn’t matter either.

It might not be totally random, I feel like it will usually happen once within 6 plays of that same big snare hit. But I still can’t figure out how to stop it from happening.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.1
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Mark King]

It might be a good idea the report which snares you are using and which one in the stack is the culprit. This way toontrack may be able to track a rogue hit which is much higher in volume and fix it.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[John]

Hi,

Mark is right, if you have steps to reproduce and specifically which drum is used, it would be helpful.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
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[Hayden Craig]

Mark King wrote:

It might be a good idea the report which snares you are using and which one in the stack is the culprit. This way toontrack may be able to track a rogue hit which is much higher in volume and fix it.

I don’t know if this helps much but I can attach some screenshots of what I’m working with.

Here are the 2 snares I am using, but remember that I had this problem even with JUST the first one:

8×14″ Ludwig Coliseum (from Core Library)

4×14″ Ludwig Black Beauty 20s (from Core Library)

some additional details is that I am allowing some snare bleed from the first rack tom. Not a lot, it’s actually at -13db. I was just replicating something from a Dave Weckl video. The overheads have snare bleed too, but still reduced by 5db. I have no bus processing or anything from Superior Drummer itself. I will also attach the screenshot of the MIDI and I will highlight the exact problem note.

In terms of replicating it consistently, kind of hard to do where it’s exact every time. I can only tell you that when I play this exact MIDI pattern, it will happen usually once within every 5 plays. I don’t think I’ve ever heard the big volume increase twice in a row though, if that helps. It seems to be every 4-5 hits.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.1
Operating system: Windows 10

• This post was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by Hayden Craig.

[Andrew Payne]

Hi Hayden,

Cant offer any help on this but was intrigued by that you have in top right of first 2 screen shots. Is that an SD3 function or from your DAW (or something else) ? Thanks, Andrew

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.1
Operating system: Windows 10

Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Windows 11, Cubase Pro 14, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat. PDP Maple acoustic kit for live playing.

[Hayden Craig]

Andrew Payne wrote:

Hi Hayden,

Cant offer any help on this but was intrigued by that you have in top right of first 2 screen shots. Is that an SD3 function or from your DAW (or something else) ? Thanks, Andrew

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.1
Operating system: Windows 10

It’s just the Mixer Track shortcuts for plugins used on FL Studio 20.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.1
Operating system: Windows 10

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Thanked by: Andrew Payne

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